carpro said:
That's it! Has to be!
I wonder if it was Bush or Cheney who called up iran and suggested they take some Britons hostage so we could bomb 'em.
We have to remember that only neocons are capable of scheming for what they want, never Iranians.:tonofbricks:
'Bumping into the Iranians can’t be helped in the northern Persian Gulf, where the lines between Iraqi and Iranian territorial water are blurred, officials said. "No maritime border has been agreed upon by the two countries," Lockwood said.'
That is Royal Australian Navy Commodore Peter Lockwood. He is the Commander of the Combined Task Force in the Northern Persian Gulf.
SOURCE (Craig Murray former British Ambassador.)
Before the spin doctors could get to him,
Commodore Lambert said:
"There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that they were in Iraqi territorial waters. Equally, the Iranians may well claim that they were in their territorial waters. The extent and definition of territorial waters in this part of the world is very complicated".
That is precisely right. The boundary between Iran and Iraq in the northern Persian Gulf has never been fixed. (Within the Shatt-al-Arab itself a line was fixed, but was to be updated every ten years because the waterway shifts, according to the treaty. As it has not been updated in over twenty years, whether it is still valid is a moot point. But it appears this incident occurred well south of the Shatt anyway.) This is a perfectly legitimate dispute. The existence of this dispute will clearly be indicated on HMS Cornwall's charts, which are in front of Commodore Lambert, but not of Mr Blair.
Until a boundary is agreed, you could only be certain that the personnel were in Iraqi territorial waters if they were within twelve miles of the coast and, at the same time, more than twelve miles from any island, spit, bar or sandbank claimed by Iran (or Kuwait).
SOURCE (Craig Murray former British Ambassador.)
George Bush to Tony Blair...
"The US was thinking of flying U2 reconnaissance aircraft with fighter cover over Iraq, painted in UN colours. If Saddam fired on them, he would be in breach."
Tony Blair said in reply he was...
"solidly with the President and ready to do whatever it took to disarm Saddam." But he also insisted that " a second Security Council resolution would provide an insurance policy against the unexpected, and international cover, including with the Arabs"
Source (Newspaper)
The waters were known to be under dispute for years. Their is no set boundary line, as Tony Blair would have you believe. Sailing in those waters anytime is running the risk of Iranian involvement they knew that before hand, and we already knew that Bush and Blair would gladly risk the lives of whoever was to fly the fake UN plane for a pretext for the Iraq invasion. So why wouldn't they be as equally willing to risk the lives of a few British sailors for a pretext to bomb Iran?
That's how Bush and Blair support the troops Carpo. What a proud example to follow huh?
Poncho beat her to the punch.
Maybe Rosie has actually sat down and done some basic research on the subject, like reading the newspaper and the easily obtainable documents.
It is amazing that Bush and Blair are being blamed again by some
Why? It's their MO to dream up fake incidents for pretexts. See above.
