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Is A W Pink Wrong?

SavedByGrace

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Repentance is more than conviction of sin or terror of the wrath to come. This is clear from Acts 2:37, 38. Under Peter's searching message the Jews were made to realize their awful guilt before God: they were made conscious of the awful fact that they had murdered the Prince of life, and so were in terrible fear of being cast into Hell. Nevertheless, though already "pricked in their hearts," when they cried out "What shall we do?" Peter said, "Repent." To a superficial mind, such a demand might appear needless yet was it seasonable counsel. Their being "pricked in their heart" was legal terror, whereas saving "repentance" is an evangelical judging of self, mourning over sin out of a sense of God's grace and goodness.

A careful and prayerful pondering of Acts 2:37, 38 should correct more than one error which is now current in various circles. When the hearers of Peter were affrighted by their awful crime and fearful of the wrath to come, pricked in their heart — as though a sword had been run through their vitals — they cried out in anguish "What shall we do?" The apostle did not say, "Be passive, there is nothing you can do," thus encouraging the fatal inertia of hyper-Calvinists. Nor did he say "Believe your sins are blotted out," which is the counsel of many "physicians of no value"in our day. No, his reply was far otherwise, in substance amounting to this: Take all the blame which belongs to you. Own the whole truth unto God. Do not gloss over, but confess your awful wickedness; let your uncircumcised hearts be truly humbled before Him. And then look by faith to the free grace of God through the blood of Christ for pardon, and in token that all your dependence is on His meditation and merits, be baptized in His name, and that shall be to you an eternal sign of the remission of your sins.

"It is manifest from the nature of the case, that he who has his eyes opened to see the glory of the Divine nature, the beauty of the Divine law, the infinite evil of sin, the need of an infinite atonement, and so to see his need of Christ: and at the same time, views God as the supreme, all-sufficient Good, ready to receive every sinner that returns Him through Christ: it is manifest, I say, that every one who is thus taught of God, will repent and turn to God as his sovereign Lord and supreme Good, and return through Jesus Christ, who is the way to the Father, and the only way, in the view of one thus Divinely enlightened. For in the clearer light the glory of the Divine nature and law is seen, in exact proportion will be the sense of the infinite evil of sin, and the need of Christ's infinite atonement and perfect righteousness. And so 'repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ' will be naturally implied in each other.

"He who repents in view of the glory of God, the glory of the law, and of the atonement, will in his repentance look only to free grace through Jesus Christ for mercy, in a view of the glory of God, law, atonement, and will in doing so, take the whole blame of his disaffection to the Divine character, as exhibited in the law, and on the cross of Christ, to himself, judging and condemning himself, and in the very act of faith, repent and be converted. When therefore it is said 'Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved' (Acts 16:31), the same (inclusive) thing is meant as when it is said, 'Repent you therefore and be converted that your sins may be blotted out' (Acts 3:19). For the apostolic faith implies repentance, and sometimes both together; but the same thing is always intended. For in the view of the apostles, repentance and faith were mutually implied in each other" (Jos. Bellamy, 1750).


Full text here, Repentance
 

AustinC

Well-Known Member
Repentance is more than conviction of sin or terror of the wrath to come. This is clear from Acts 2:37, 38. Under Peter's searching message the Jews were made to realize their awful guilt before God: they were made conscious of the awful fact that they had murdered the Prince of life, and so were in terrible fear of being cast into Hell. Nevertheless, though already "pricked in their hearts," when they cried out "What shall we do?" Peter said, "Repent." To a superficial mind, such a demand might appear needless yet was it seasonable counsel. Their being "pricked in their heart" was legal terror, whereas saving "repentance" is an evangelical judging of self, mourning over sin out of a sense of God's grace and goodness.

A careful and prayerful pondering of Acts 2:37, 38 should correct more than one error which is now current in various circles. When the hearers of Peter were affrighted by their awful crime and fearful of the wrath to come, pricked in their heart — as though a sword had been run through their vitals — they cried out in anguish "What shall we do?" The apostle did not say, "Be passive, there is nothing you can do," thus encouraging the fatal inertia of hyper-Calvinists. Nor did he say "Believe your sins are blotted out," which is the counsel of many "physicians of no value"in our day. No, his reply was far otherwise, in substance amounting to this: Take all the blame which belongs to you. Own the whole truth unto God. Do not gloss over, but confess your awful wickedness; let your uncircumcised hearts be truly humbled before Him. And then look by faith to the free grace of God through the blood of Christ for pardon, and in token that all your dependence is on His meditation and merits, be baptized in His name, and that shall be to you an eternal sign of the remission of your sins.

"It is manifest from the nature of the case, that he who has his eyes opened to see the glory of the Divine nature, the beauty of the Divine law, the infinite evil of sin, the need of an infinite atonement, and so to see his need of Christ: and at the same time, views God as the supreme, all-sufficient Good, ready to receive every sinner that returns Him through Christ: it is manifest, I say, that every one who is thus taught of God, will repent and turn to God as his sovereign Lord and supreme Good, and return through Jesus Christ, who is the way to the Father, and the only way, in the view of one thus Divinely enlightened. For in the clearer light the glory of the Divine nature and law is seen, in exact proportion will be the sense of the infinite evil of sin, and the need of Christ's infinite atonement and perfect righteousness. And so 'repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ' will be naturally implied in each other.

"He who repents in view of the glory of God, the glory of the law, and of the atonement, will in his repentance look only to free grace through Jesus Christ for mercy, in a view of the glory of God, law, atonement, and will in doing so, take the whole blame of his disaffection to the Divine character, as exhibited in the law, and on the cross of Christ, to himself, judging and condemning himself, and in the very act of faith, repent and be converted. When therefore it is said 'Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved' (Acts 16:31), the same (inclusive) thing is meant as when it is said, 'Repent you therefore and be converted that your sins may be blotted out' (Acts 3:19). For the apostolic faith implies repentance, and sometimes both together; but the same thing is always intended. For in the view of the apostles, repentance and faith were mutually implied in each other" (Jos. Bellamy, 1750).


Full text here, Repentance
When the hearers of Peter were affrighted by their awful crime and fearful of the wrath to come, pricked in their heart — as though a sword had been run through their vitals — they cried out in anguish "What shall we do?"

What, precisely are you attempting to claim via Pink's writing?
 

Mikey

Active Member
SavedbyGrace has been shown that their understanding of what faith alone is wrong, it does not mean that repentance is not necessary, yet continues to state otherwise. No Reformed person believes what SbG claims Reformed believe about Faith alone.
 

Yeshua1

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SavedbyGrace has been shown that their understanding of what faith alone is wrong, it does not mean that repentance is not necessary, yet continues to state otherwise. No Reformed person believes what SbG claims Reformed believe about Faith alone.
I keep trying to have someone explain to me just how much to repent of is required in order to get saved?
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
I keep trying to have someone explain to me just how much to repent of is required in order to get saved?
It is not repentance of specific works to get saved. It is repentance (it is turning to God). Jesus was right when He said that we must repent and believe.
 
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Yeshua1

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It is not repentance of specific works to get saved. It is repentance (it is turning to God). Jesus was right when He said that we must repent and believe.
I see it as being we are enabled by the Holy Spirit to repent of trying to save ourselves by own efforts and works.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
I see it as being we are enabled by the Holy Spirit to repent of trying to save ourselves by own efforts and works.
But that is not actually what "repent" means. It is in effect "letting go", that is, not doing it ourselves but God doing it. That is repentance.
 

Mikey

Active Member
But that is not actually what "repent" means. It is in effect "letting go", that is, not doing it ourselves but God doing it. That is repentance.


"Let it go, let it go
Can't hold it back anymore
Let it go, let it go
Turn away and slam the door!" :Laugh
 

MB

Well-Known Member
But that is not actually what "repent" means. It is in effect "letting go", that is, not doing it ourselves but God doing it. That is repentance.
I call it turning to Christ. Feeling bad for your sin in my opinion is not repentance. it's remorse. Repentance is turning to Christ for guidance. Taking the path of Christ which is believing in Him
REPENT'ANCE, n.
1. Sorrow for any thing done or said; the pain or grief which a person experiences in consequence of the injury or inconvenience produced by his own conduct.
2. In theology, the pain, regret or affliction which a person feels on account of his past conduct, because it exposes him to punishment. This sorrow proceeding merely from the fear of punishment, is called legal repentance, as being excited by the terrors of legal penalties, and it may exist without an amendment of life.
3. Real penitence; sorrow or deep contrition for sin, as an offense and dishonor to God, a violation of his holy law, and the basest ingratitude towards a Being of infinite benevolence. This is called evangelical repentance, and is accompanied and followed by amendment of life.
Repentance is a change of mind, or a conversion from sin to God.
Godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation. 2 Cor 7. Mat 3.
Repentance is the relinquishment of any practice, from conviction that it has offended God.

Maybe both are necessary both sorrow and change.
I remember I felt the sorrow as well as I turned or changed direction
MB
 
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JonC

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Moderator
I call it turning to Christ. Feeling bad for your sin in my opinion is not repentance. it's remorse. Repentance is turning to Christ for guidance. Taking the path of Christ which is believing in Him
REPENT'ANCE, n.
1. Sorrow for any thing done or said; the pain or grief which a person experiences in consequence of the injury or inconvenience produced by his own conduct.
2. In theology, the pain, regret or affliction which a person feels on account of his past conduct, because it exposes him to punishment. This sorrow proceeding merely from the fear of punishment, is called legal repentance, as being excited by the terrors of legal penalties, and it may exist without an amendment of life.
3. Real penitence; sorrow or deep contrition for sin, as an offense and dishonor to God, a violation of his holy law, and the basest ingratitude towards a Being of infinite benevolence. This is called evangelical repentance, and is accompanied and followed by amendment of life.
Repentance is a change of mind, or a conversion from sin to God.
Godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation. 2 Cor 7. Mat 3.
Repentance is the relinquishment of any practice, from conviction that it has offended God.

Maybe both are necessary both sorrow and change.
I remember I felt the sorrow as well as I turned or changed direction
MB
Scripture tells us the same thing - the sorrow that is according to the will of God produces a repentance without regret, leading to salvation. BUT the sorrow of the world produces death.
 

MB

Well-Known Member
Scripture tells us the same thing - the sorrow that is according to the will of God produces a repentance without regret, leading to salvation. BUT the sorrow of the world produces death.
Agree
MB
 

AustinC

Well-Known Member
But that is not actually what "repent" means. It is in effect "letting go", that is, not doing it ourselves but God doing it. That is repentance.
Below is a perfect example of repentance.

1 Thessalonians 1:9
For they themselves report concerning us the kind of reception we had among you, and how you turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God.
 

canadyjd

Well-Known Member
I keep trying to have someone explain to me just how much to repent of is required in order to get saved?
Just how much faith is required in order to get saved?

It simply is not reasonable to ask someone to quantify or measure the amount of repentance or faith needed to be saved.

As Pink says, repentance and faith are closely related.

peace to you
 

Yeshua1

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Just how much faith is required in order to get saved?

It simply is not reasonable to ask someone to quantify or measure the amount of repentance or faith needed to be saved.

As Pink says, repentance and faith are closely related.

peace to you
That is why I am asking, as some seem to have it needing "full commitment/repenting for all sins" to get saved...
 

canadyjd

Well-Known Member
That is why I am asking, as some seem to have it needing "full commitment/repenting for all sins" to get saved...
I believe salvation leads to ever increasing repentance and faith as we mature in our walk with Christ and draw closer to God.

Repentance and faith are not one time events but rather ongoing elements of our new life.

peace to you
 
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