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Featured Is it time to "update" the NIV?

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by alexander284, Nov 7, 2021.

  1. alexander284

    alexander284 Well-Known Member

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    It's been ten years since the NIV was updated.

    Is it time for another update?

    If so, what would you like to see changed?
     
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    Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

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    I would say de-update it and go back to 1984.
     
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    RipponRedeaux Well-Known Member

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    No, though the current edition has to tighten up some things --reverting back to the 1984 edition would be a retro-step.
     
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    alexander284 Well-Known Member

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    Just out of curiosity: perhaps you might provide us with some examples of what you'd like to see them tweak or fine tune?
     
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    RipponRedeaux Well-Known Member

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    Take a look at two threads I started yesterday on that very topic.
     
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    Would be making it better though!
     
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    The 1984 edition was the best of the more dynamic translation types, but the 2011 degraded that!
     
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    RipponRedeaux Well-Known Member

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    While your pastor preachers from the 2020NIV, which translation do you use?
     
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    LOL. If the owners of the copyright fixed the NIV to the word of God . . . .
     
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    RipponRedeaux Well-Known Member

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    Sinful balderdash above.
     
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    RipponRedeaux Well-Known Member

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    The NIV has never been in that category. You know that.
     
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    I disagree, NIV has always been considered dynamic equivalent.
     
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    RipponRedeaux Well-Known Member

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    By the uninformed.
     
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    Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

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    I guess several different undergrad courses I took are uninformed then?
     
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    Both readings are not true, John 13:2, "was in progress," versus "was ended." One reading is the word of God the other is a falsehood. Prove "was ended" is the falsehood. It is the oldest and more difficult reading as well as 99.5% of the manuscript support it.
     
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    The NIV described itself that way.
     
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    No, in fact it does not. Read the preface. There is no mention of it being a dynamic, or functionally equivalent translation. It is a mediating translation, the same middle ground that the NET, CSB and the NABRE occupy.
     
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    There is no humor in saying that the NIV is not the Word of God. You are being sinful to say such a thing.
     
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    Exactly
     
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    LEB and GW have taking place
    CEB has sharing the evening meal
    Mounce has During the evening meal
    The NABRE, NASB, ESV, NRSV and WEB all have during supper
    The NIV and NET have the evening meal was in progress
     
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