Is Pat Robertson calling for a murder, or is he insane?

I quit watching him over 30 years ago. Why are you watching him?

 

Pat Robertson is and has been a certifiable loon for years! He has said that feminism encourages witchcraft, lesbianism, and mothers to murder their children. He has claimed to have influenced the course of a hurricane away from his base of operations in Virginia Beach along with dozens of other ludicrous statements.

...and yet, he has been welcomed to the White House by Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II because he can delivered zillions of votes for right wing candidates in elections in Virginia and around the country and can raise zillions of $'s for political activities by the right wingers.

I've read several articles which allege that he has used the tax exempt status of his operations for personal enrichment. It is alleged that he has been involved in several dubious financial schemes. One of them involved buying diamonds from the war torn states in Africa. I am embarrased to acknowlege him and his supporters as a Christian.

Far from being a dictatorship, Venezuela is one of the more democratic countries in Latin America. It has a free media ( the 4 main TV networks oppose Chavez, despite his high approval ratings with the public) and it is the only country in the world where (under a constitution introduced by Chavez) a sitting president can be recalled by referendum. When a recall vote was held recently, he won.

The problem the US government has with Chavez isn't so much Cuba but OPEC. The low oil prices enjoyed in the 80s and 90s were in part due to Venezuela's co-operation with the US. Now, Venezuela is a major leader in OPEC, which has pushed oil prices up. Good for the Venezuelan economy, bad news for Bush.

[Edited to remove possibly libellous comments]

 

I agree with Brother Pat!
If we don't do something we will wish we had.

 

You're being sarcastic aren't you? Please tell me you're being sarcastic.

 

It's worse than than, Matt. How are you? I have outlined some of the problem in the thread on the threat of Chávez. He is the Latin Mugabe. He has told squatters to build shanties on British property. He has called for Taiwan to be handed over to the Chinese. But worse of all is that he is giving safe haven to people trying to overthrow President Uribe in Colombia. This does not mention his human rights abuses of people missing, murdered in custody, or being held without charges, etc. If you read Spanish, there is a great deal more information about him available in Spanish.

http://espanol.yahoo.com/

 

See my comments on Venezuela above. Swings and roundabouts, old boy. It's no worse or better than most of the rest of Latin America and the US of A doesn't go fiddling around with the other countries. Oh, wait, I forgot, they do. But assassination does seem a bit beyond the pale.

[ETA - I'm fine by the way; no-one's tried to assassinate me recently! (Although, who knows, maybe 'Brother Pat' will issue a fatwah on me too!)]

 

Look, you must know something about the British land being taken over by Chávez, or squatted upon by his direction. What makes Chávez trouble is his stirring up trouble in Colombia. I think that 3000 people a year have died in that internal Colombian war, which has lasted 41 years. Chávez is a real threat to the Colombian middle class, who are trying very hard to bring peace and a normal life back to Colombia and deal with the squalor.

 

He reminds me of Adolf during the 1930's -- trying to stir up hate against internal dissention and imagined external enemies, in order to consolidate his base among his supporters. If he follows Adolf's pattern, I can see him involved in a border war with Columbia.
His alignment with Fidel should be concern enough.

Question is, what do we do about it? We have the economic strength to deprive him of export income, but that would push oil prices even higher. Since most of the American public (unreasonably) believes that Presidents have power over oil prices, this would work against Bush's already low poll numbers. Assassinate him? Counterproductive in the short and long run. Support the forces opposing him? Same problem. (Especially if done covertly, and that is later exposed.)

Perhaps the best solution at this point is to isolate him diplomatically, and prepare for the eventuality of military action. Poll numbers aside, we can't afford this cancer to spread in that hemisphere.

 

Robertson is a nut, loon, goof, couple fries short of a happy meal. This is just the latest in a long line of nonsense streaming from his mouth.

What makes this so bad in my eyes is that he is saying this stuff in context of a "Christian" talk show. This makes all Christians look no better then the terrorists calling for the execution of various non-Islamic leaders. Do you really think terrorists are going to ignore these comments and not use them to motivate the masses?

 

Mr. Bush has shown no propensity to personally pressure, or “jawbone,” Mideast oil producers to increase output.

Bush should not have made that claim during the campaign. Oil prices are a function of supply/demand, and tinged with fears or expectations of future supply distortions caused by political events. No amount of "jawboning" is going to have any affect on the price of oil, period.

 

So, murdering a head of state is the answer?

One more time, to quote Bruce Springsteen:
"God have mercy on the man who doubts what he's sure of."

Regards,
BiR

 

So, murdering a head of state is the answer?

One more time, to quote Bruce Springsteen:
"God have mercy on the man who doubts what he's sure of."

Regards,
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Define head of state.
Hitler?
Ho Chi Mihn (sp)?
Stalin?
Idi Amin?
Could go on, but yea, I got no prob at all of assinations of these so called "Heads of State". I figured Springsteen would have a problem with it. Do you?

 

I think Pat needs the 6 second delay on his show or else be put out to pasture.

 

So, you are saying that murdering the leader of another country, or a "head of state" is justifiable? You didn't really say what you thought, so I thought I would ask.

And NO, I do not support murder. Read that quote by Springsteen again.....

Regards,
BiR

 

How about reading the Bible. I think I remember reading something about MURDER being a SIN!

 

All have sinned and come short of the glory of God.

Only exception is Jesus Christ.