Is PC and Tolerance Biblically Correct?

[righteousdude2]

I would love to hear from all of you, pastors and lay people, as to what you think about this politically correct [PC] thing and the tolerance teachings that major employers are pushing on their employees?

As a retired state employee [in middle management] I was subjected to tolerance training and PC workshops on a yearly basis. Once with other managment peers, than with my subordinates. It was a little too much.

The only part of the training I agreed with had to do with sexual harassment awareness. I didn't want to be sued, so the training was well worth the 2 hour drive to Carlsbad.

Still, this PC and tolerance training used to "bug" me, because it stepped on my beliefs as a Christian.

So What Say You, as to these employee training subjects being in line with Biblical teaching? Especially, when it came to the gay lifestyle and our acceptance of their life style in the work place. Sure, they had a right to work and not be harassed, but, that is where I drew the line. Allowing them to have an office gay pride day party and expect everyone to attend is a little over board.

Let's hear from you on this subject. It should be interesting.

Pastor Paul

 

[ccrobinson]

Still, this PC and tolerance training used to "bug" me, because it stepped on my beliefs as a Christian. So What Say You, as to these employee training subjects being in line with Biblical teaching? Especially, when it came to the gay lifestyle and our acceptance of their life style in the work place. Sure, they had a right to work and not be harassed, but, that is where I drew the line. Allowing them to have an office gay pride day party and expect everyone to attend is a little over board.

I've never heard of an office gay pride day party. I can't imagine why that would be something that everyone is expected to attend. You just say that you feel uncomfortable going to something like that and that should be the end of it. The PC/tolerance training can easily be used by Christians to object to things that are against their conscience.

Even at the state government level, they're concerned about the bottom line. I find it hard to believe that any business would mandate that everybody attends some silly party like that. It sounds like a foolish waste of money.

 

[tinytim]

A party for sexual preferences borders on sexual harrassment....

I beleive if my employer would have made me attend a Gay pride party, I would have filed sexual harrassment charges..

 

[Palatka51]

A party for sexual preferences borders on sexual harrassment....

I beleive if my employer would have made me attend a Gay pride party, I would have filed sexual harrassment charges..

Fighting Fire with fire, I like that. Good point.

 

[Joe]

One common problem that came up frequently in the workplace (before I became a Contractor) was putting myself and another lady up in the same Hotel out of town. I believe this is a common problem.

I was in Public Relations. The Supervisor often refused my request to stay in a Hostel. They felt it would look bad if I stayed in a cheap hostel. I would be forced to ride with, stay in a nice Hotel, and work all day with a female college who was very appealing. One time the room had adjoining doors, so it was really one hotel room. I finally just refused to work out of town unless I was given a credit card to stay where I wanted.

Otherwise, I think it is fairly easy to use the workplace's own rules to refute anything. Like Tim's example, perfect

We don't have many gay people here, so they are usually not thought highly of.

Discrimination against heterosexuals could be used against the gay party idea. Orthe fact that "this is a place of work, where people need to be rewarded for their work efforts, not the gender of who their "wilds" are targeted at".

Imo, using humor is best. Maybe something like "Well I am heterosexual today, but tomorrow I may be bisexual, so can I have two parties this week?"

 

[Sopranette]

Only one place I worked made us take classes on PC. Yeah, some of the guys could be over the line, it was mostly a men's profession, but really, it wasn't anything us girls couldn't handle with a little humor. Personally, I found it really insulting to be made to learn basic manners by my employer, but it meant a free lunch, so I guess that balanced out.

love,

Sopranette

 

[righteousdude2]

It was like a potluck

I've never heard of an office gay pride day party. I can't imagine why that would be something that everyone is expected to attend. You just say that you feel uncomfortable going to something like that and that should be the end of it. The PC/tolerance training can easily be used by Christians to object to things that are against their conscience.

Even at the state government level, they're concerned about the bottom line. I find it hard to believe that any business would mandate that everybody attends some silly party like that. It sounds like a foolish waste of money.

They held these "silly" little parties on days when there was all staff meeting. It was a potluck style get-together. It happened my last year of state service.

I don't know if it went any further. This get together was like "cinco de mayo", "black history month", halloween (I see this day as demonic), St. Patrick's (I am not Catholic) etc.

I did excuse myself from things like Halloween, but, because i was in management, my attendance was not optional, I had to make an apearance.

It sounds silly, but it is going on. It was not a sexual harassment thing. Just a day to recognise the diversity among the people that made up the employees with this department.

Pastor Paul

 

[npetreley]

It was not a sexual harassment thing. Just a day to recognise the diversity among the people that made up the employees with this department.

Pastor Paul

Maybe you could have suggested a special party to celebrate the diversity represented by people who don't believe in having a gay pride party.

 

[ccrobinson]

They held these "silly" little parties on days when there was all staff meeting.

I don't understand why you put silly in quotes. By doing that, it looks like you're mocking me for calling a "gay pride office party" silly. I'm sure you don't mean to do that, because if the potluck was actually called a "gay pride office party", then it is silly.

It was not a sexual harassment thing. Just a day to recognise the diversity among the people that made up the employees with this department.

Maybe it's because I'm from the Midwest and not California, but a potluck recognizing diversity is one thing, but a "gay pride office party" sounds like something completely different.

This get together was like "cinco de mayo", "black history month", halloween (I see this day as demonic), St. Patrick's (I am not Catholic) etc.

It sounds to me like they're looking for an excuse to have a potluck. About the only thing that can go wrong with a potluck is if somebody brings in nasty food.

 

[righteousdude2]

No that was a good IDEA!

Maybe you could have suggested a special party to celebrate the diversity represented by people who don't believe in having a gay pride party.

Thanks for the great idea. Where were you when I needed ideas like that?

Pastor Paul

 

[righteousdude2]

Sorry RE: "silly"

I don't understand why you put silly in quotes. By doing that, it looks like you're mocking me for calling a "gay pride office party" silly. I'm sure you don't mean to do that, because if the potluck was actually called a "gay pride office party", then it is silly.



Maybe it's because I'm from the Midwest and not California, but a potluck recognizing diversity is one thing, but a "gay pride office party" sounds like something completely different.



It sounds to me like they're looking for an excuse to have a potluck. About the only thing that can go wrong with a potluck is if somebody brings in nasty food.

Not mocking the "silly" just emphasizing the parties were often silly. You are right about one thing, these folks, in my office would have had a "ground hog day" party had we lived in the New York area.

I sat on a Governor appointed EEO-AC committee for three years, and there were two gays on the committee of 15. Following one of our meetings, the group invited me to lunch to celebrate the engagement of this committee member to his steady guy.

I told the person that invited me [in a spirit of confidentiality] that I was a believer, and to go compromised my anti gay marriage stand. The word got around [so much for confidentiality] and I had to invite myself to go to group things after that. No one was as friendly with me for turning this invite down. At least God was lifted up.

Pastor Paul

 

[Steven2006]

"Allowing them to have an office gay pride day party and expect everyone to attend is a little over board."

I am not really sure, are you saying this actually happened or are you using this as an example of what could happen with this trend? If they actually had a party called "gay pride day party", then I agree that I wouldn't attend and would probably file a complaint. As far as the St. Patrick, Halloween type of pot luck parties, they don't really bother me. I think it is less about those titles, and more a reason to have a little office fun, and getting together. Good opportunity to get to know others, you might not speak with much during the normal course of the day.

 

[Ed Edwards]

Kicked up to page 1 of the Fourm index ...

tolerance is a very Biblical Principle!