Is Salvation Conditional?

They are believing and continue to believe...everyone believing

Jn6:37
37all that the Father doth give to me will come unto me; and him who is coming unto me, I may in no wise cast without,

38because I have come down out of the heaven, not that I may do my will, but the will of Him who sent me.

39`And this is the will of the Father who sent me, that all that He hath given to me I may not lose of it, but may raise it up in the last day; 40and this is the will of Him who sent me, that every one who is beholding the Son, and is believing in him, may have life age-during, and I will raise him up in the last day.'

6having been confident of this very thing, that He who did begin in you a good work, will perform [it] till a day of Jesus Christ,

 

Everyone has to believe in Jesus.

 

Yes. You must have faith in order to be saved. God has done all the work, but you must believe Jesus is who He says He is.

 

More probably that its because/due to the fact that they ARE the elect by the Father, they are able to meet the requirement of placing their faith in Christ!

Condition is that a sinner whom God has chosen to be found "In Christ"

 

Salvation is conditional. - faith and repentance
election is unconditional

 

Seems there is issue here with God saving whomsoever He wills to save. He's Sovereign, He made the rules, all that are His will come to Him. None saved are non elect.

It's all for and according to His purpose.

 

ALL those that the father chooses to give unto Jesus shall become eternally saved and secured...

HAS to be a basis for Him choosing them, what do you say that it is?

 

This would be the more accurate way of seeing the the conditions of salvation.

The first condition is to be among the elect. Seeing as how no human knows who are the elect, we preach the gospel to all, pray for all, see Christ's work for all, etc., but realize that only those foreordained by God will actually, eventually come to salvation.

The second condition is the atoning work of Christ. Without His ACTUAL life, death, burial, and resurrection, there is no hope at all. Those who make Christ's work nothing more (even if on a very reverent basis) than example are hopeless and doomed.

The third condition is that those who are elect hear the effectual call, respond in faith and repentance, then persevere in their faith until the end. God gifts those who are among the elect with the ability and spiritual power/position so to do by His justification, adoption, and sealing.

So, yes, there are conditions or else salvation would be universal and the entire idea of sharing the gospel would be a moot point, an activity of religious zeal, perhaps, but of no real significance in the actual affairs of God's redemption of lost humanity.

 

Seems that it keeps coming back to the BASIS of our salvation...

Is it based FULLY upon the Good pleasure/Will of the Heavenly Father...

Or some degree also based upon us?

 

If one reads all of John 3, one will realize that even 3:16 doesn't place conditions on a man, but rather on God. Jesus explains salvation and the Holy Spirit then castigates a "teacher" of the law in Jerusalem for not understanding that the human component is not the issue ("How can one be born again?"). Further, right after the pronouncement in 3:16, Christ explains that He has not come to condemn the world, but that some might be saved by Him. The entire affair is Jesus correcting the teaching of a man of Israel who mistakenly thought that BY HIS ACTIONS one could be reconciled with God.

If salvation is conditional upon any of us, none of us has any hope at all, for we can neither access God unless He grants us that right via grace, nor can we atone for any of our separating sin, either by keeping the law, believing, etc. All hinges on whether or not God does what only God can do, hence my answer.

 

...which is included in "all the work" that God has done.

 

Some here do not see just how spiritually wreaked by fall of Adam, as we are all seen by God as being in Adam...

IF spiritually dead, how can a spiritual corpse respond by faith in even the Gospel message?

 

Faith is not a work.

 

You are correct. It is a gift from God.

8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
Eph 2:7-8 (NASB)

Young's Literal Translation (so literal it hurts to read in English) says it this way:

8 for by grace ye are having been saved, through faith, and this not of you--of God the gift,
Eph 2:8 (YLT)

Of course, that is probably not what you mean, Amy. I expect that you mean that our faith is, well, ours -- something we drum up inside ourselves by our own effort. I know that a lot of people hold that perspective because the Bible tells us to, in effect, "exercise" our faith, but that is akin to the way it tells us to "exercise" (use) all the gifts of God, not that we somehow originate our own faith.

 

I'll tell you what I mean.

Yes, it is our faith. If I give you a gift, it is yours to keep. But God has given every person a measure of faith to be exercised in obedience to the gospel. Just as God has given every man a conscience and the law written on our hearts, He has given each enough faith to believe. So our faith was a gift from God in that respect.