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Is the NIV 2011 STILL A "Calvinist Bible"?
- Thread starter DaChaser1
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I would agree with you about the NIV being a "Calvinistic" Bible. For example look at Psalm 51:5.
The NIV reads "Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me" Calvinism teaches that we are all born in sin.
The NASB and the ESV both read "Behold I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me." This could mean that David was born into a sinful world, or that the sinfulness belonged to the mother.
At least it's a point to ponder in the OP's argument.
The NIV reads "Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me" Calvinism teaches that we are all born in sin.
The NASB and the ESV both read "Behold I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me." This could mean that David was born into a sinful world, or that the sinfulness belonged to the mother.
At least it's a point to ponder in the OP's argument.
The idea for the NIV originated in the Christian Reformed Church, then the National Association of Evangelicals got involved.
However, a recent report of the Wisconsin Synod Lutherans praised the following change from the NIV84 to this New NIV:
http://www.wels.net/sites/wels/files/BORAM2011_supplemental_translationevaluationcommittee.pdf
However, a recent report of the Wisconsin Synod Lutherans praised the following change from the NIV84 to this New NIV:
http://www.wels.net/sites/wels/files/BORAM2011_supplemental_translationevaluationcommittee.pdf
Beat me in the head with a brick if I have to keep reading these inane questions...
The addition of the little word “all” is significant, since it clarifies Paul’s intended meaning: God has declared all guilty sinners not guilty by his gracious, saving work in Christ Jesus.
I sure do not read it that way. The "all" that is added is not in the Greek, so it should be italicized so that it is clearly a translator additon to the text.
I read it that everyone, all mankind, has sinned and come short of the glory of God, but through deliverance in Christ Jesus, are justified freely. Thus only those delivered are justified, not all guilty sinners.
I sure do not read it that way. The "all" that is added is not in the Greek, so it should be italicized so that it is clearly a translator additon to the text.
I read it that everyone, all mankind, has sinned and come short of the glory of God, but through deliverance in Christ Jesus, are justified freely. Thus only those delivered are justified, not all guilty sinners.
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seekingthetruth
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But what does it matter if you are born sinful if God is taking you unwillingly to heaven anyway?
John
seekingthetruth
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It's funny to me how the Bible says that God's Word never changes....
But man keeps changing it every couple of years and make a lot of money doing it.
John
But man keeps changing it every couple of years and make a lot of money doing it.
John
DiamondLady
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For the love of all that is holy...get a GRIP!!! What in the world does it matter. It's a Bible! An NIV Bible to boot, on it's 9000th change!
All in life does not revolve around the Cal/Arm debate. Get over it and quit asking these idiotic and inane questions.
Ok. Ask and you shall receive.
Sorry. Couldn't find a brick.
Ah...well...yes, that might do...oh here's one...
:BangHead::BangHead::BangHead:
Yea....who told you that? Your just full of one liners aren't you.