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Is there a name for this doctrine?

Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin

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There are groups of Individuals in Heaven

-The elect are one group of Saved individual
-The Church is a second group of Saved Individuals
-The 144,000 Jews are a third group of Saved Individuals
-Folks saved during the Tribulation (Can't be Church, I assume Church will be Raptured) are a fourth group of Saved Individuals
-Angels that have been Saved

These divisions are seen, for example, with the Angels not allowed to sing the Church's song

I learned this from a Baptist Preacher up in the mountains, but apparently it ain't common in the flat lands. My wife says she ain't never heard of it before.
 

kyredneck

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There are groups of Individuals in Heaven

-The elect are one group of Saved individual
-The Church is a second group of Saved Individuals
-The 144,000 Jews are a third group of Saved Individuals
-Folks saved during the Tribulation (Can't be Church, I assume Church will be Raptured) are a fourth group of Saved Individuals
-Angels that have been Saved

These divisions are seen, for example, with the Angels not allowed to sing the Church's song

I learned this from a Baptist Preacher up in the mountains, but apparently it ain't common in the flat lands. My wife says she ain't never heard of it before.

....sounds like typical Dispensational chop suey...
 

Sapper Woody

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That must be a form of hyper-dispensationalism. I've been dispensationalist my whole life and have never heard of it. Especially the part about angels getting saved.

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Alcott

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Heaven's Savings and Lone Association. Paul worked there-- he was in stocks and bonds.
 

John of Japan

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Thanks Ky! I looked that up and that's definitely it.

I talked with my wife. She's more Calvinistic than I am and she seems to be more of a Covenant theology rather than Dispensational. That explains why she ain't heard of it before!
Nope, has absolutely nothing to do with dispensationalism: historic, progressive, or hyper. I ought to know, since I teach the subject in our Bible college. :)

I would guess it's just some weird thing that preacher dreamed up. And it's not based on the Bible. Angels being saved? The church and the elect being different groups? The 144,000 being a separate group in Heaven? None of that is in the Bible
 

Iconoclast

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Some dispensational writers went overboard in the 70s and 80s.
They would write about different saved groups at different times.
I had a book by a man....If I recall Salem Kirban who would put the different groups into different colors.....tribulation saints verses in blue, regular believers in red and so on.
I was holding dispensational ideas at the time...but thought he was trying way to hard.:Cautious
 

tyndale1946

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Satan's hodge podge... Because it sure isn't scripture or from God... Brother Glen:)

2 Corinthians 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
 
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