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Is This Right or Wrong?

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SavedByGrace

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kyredneck said:
Irrelevant. It's still 'shooting yourself in the foot', 'throwing the baby out with the bath water'....it's stupid.
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Maybe so. However, if the vaccine does protect the old and vulnerable from getting covid, surely prevention is better than illness or death?
 
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SavedByGrace said:
protect the old and vulnerable
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...by firing those who care for the 'old and vulnerable'? Right.

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My youngest daughter has been a fulltime ICU 'covid nurse' since the very beginning and she is weary, PTSD, wore out, THEY DON'T NEED FEWER HEALTH CARE WORKERS THEY NEED MORE!
 
Wingman68

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SavedByGrace said:
Maybe so. However, if the vaccine does protect the old and vulnerable from getting covid, surely prevention is better than illness or death?
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It doesn’t.
  • Recent data from the U.K. Office of National Statistics reveals people who have been double jabbed against COVID-19 are dying from all causes at a rate six times higher than the unvaccinated
  • In the U.S., meanwhile, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is propping up the official narrative with two manipulated studies — one suggesting the jab reduces all-cause mortality, and another claiming the shot is five times more protective than natural immunity
  • Both studies are of questionable quality and have several problems, including selection of time and date ranges that allow them to pretend that the COVID shots are safer and more effective than they really are
  • According to all-cause mortality statistics, the number of Americans who died between January 2021 and August 2021 is 16% higher than 2018 (the pre-COVID year with the highest all-cause mortality) and 18% higher than the average death rate between 2015 and 2019. Did COVID-19 raise the death toll despite mass vaccination, or are people dying at increased rates because of the COVID jabs?
  • CDC data reveal that while the number of hospitalized patients with natural immunity fell sharply over the summer, when the delta variant took over, the number of vaccinated people being hospitalized soared, from three per month on average during the spring to more than 100 a month in late summer. Since these vaccinated patients were less than six months from their second dose, they should have been at or near maximum immunity.
 
SavedByGrace

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Wingman68 said:
It doesn’t.
  • Recent data from the U.K. Office of National Statistics reveals people who have been double jabbed against COVID-19 are dying from all causes at a rate six times higher than the unvaccinated
  • In the U.S., meanwhile, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is propping up the official narrative with two manipulated studies — one suggesting the jab reduces all-cause mortality, and another claiming the shot is five times more protective than natural immunity
  • Both studies are of questionable quality and have several problems, including selection of time and date ranges that allow them to pretend that the COVID shots are safer and more effective than they really are
  • According to all-cause mortality statistics, the number of Americans who died between January 2021 and August 2021 is 16% higher than 2018 (the pre-COVID year with the highest all-cause mortality) and 18% higher than the average death rate between 2015 and 2019. Did COVID-19 raise the death toll despite mass vaccination, or are people dying at increased rates because of the COVID jabs?
  • CDC data reveal that while the number of hospitalized patients with natural immunity fell sharply over the summer, when the delta variant took over, the number of vaccinated people being hospitalized soared, from three per month on average during the spring to more than 100 a month in late summer. Since these vaccinated patients were less than six months from their second dose, they should have been at or near maximum immunity.
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Some of the stats have been proven to be wrong.
 
SavedByGrace

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Reformed1689 said:
Then let them get the vaccine if they want the protection it claims to offer.
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This virus is very new and has spread around the world very fast and caught all governments not knowing what to do. Because of the high infection rate and deaths it is responsibility of all governments to protect their citizens especially those vulnerable and the elderly
 
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Wingman68 said:
It doesn’t.
  • Recent data from the U.K. Office of National Statistics reveals people who have been double jabbed against COVID-19 are dying from all causes at a rate six times higher than the unvaccinated
  • In the U.S., meanwhile, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is propping up the official narrative with two manipulated studies — one suggesting the jab reduces all-cause mortality, and another claiming the shot is five times more protective than natural immunity
  • Both studies are of questionable quality and have several problems, including selection of time and date ranges that allow them to pretend that the COVID shots are safer and more effective than they really are
  • According to all-cause mortality statistics, the number of Americans who died between January 2021 and August 2021 is 16% higher than 2018 (the pre-COVID year with the highest all-cause mortality) and 18% higher than the average death rate between 2015 and 2019. Did COVID-19 raise the death toll despite mass vaccination, or are people dying at increased rates because of the COVID jabs?
  • CDC data reveal that while the number of hospitalized patients with natural immunity fell sharply over the summer, when the delta variant took over, the number of vaccinated people being hospitalized soared, from three per month on average during the spring to more than 100 a month in late summer. Since these vaccinated patients were less than six months from their second dose, they should have been at or near maximum immunity.
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I saw a video by a Mortician, one of SBG's countrymen where he stated he is burring many more this year than he did in 2020.
 
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SavedByGrace said:
This virus is very new and has spread around the world very fast and caught all governments not knowing what to do. Because of the high infection rate and deaths it is responsibility of all governments to protect their citizens especially those vulnerable and the elderly
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Excuse me. They knew exactly what they were going to do and exactly what they are doing. You are correct, this virus is new. Brand new and man made.

Wonder why one would make a, Virus?
 
Reformed1689

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SavedByGrace said:
This virus is very new and has spread around the world very fast and caught all governments not knowing what to do. Because of the high infection rate and deaths it is responsibility of all governments to protect their citizens especially those vulnerable and the elderly
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Not by infringing on freedoms of everyone else. If you are afraid to get sick stay home in a bubble. Everyone else live your lives please.
 
SavedByGrace

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Reformed1689 said:
Not by infringing on freedoms of everyone else
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if the national health service, which is government controlled, decide that all their staff must be fully vaccinated, then it is upto each person to accept this, or find a new job. very simple. I heard that some US States are doing the same as here?
 
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