Featured It is impossible to convince a Mormon that he is wrong!

Wrong again! I have witnessed to multitudes of Mormons through out my ministry and they always come back to one answer when cornered. "burning in my breast" - FEELING!

I have closed the mouth of nearly every mormon missionary that has come to my door over the years (multitudes) and they run for one refuge when they cannot defend their intepretations of scripture - "burning in my breast" followed by wanting to give me their testimony (which I never allow).

He does not claim the Holy Spirit as his source of authority. He claims his PROPHET and FEELING "burning in my breast"!

This is a complete distortion of Mormonism! Mormons claim to be the "LATTER DAY SAINTS" not the former day saints. They claim authority by a NEW prophet not old Prophets. They claim a NEW revelation not the Scriptues.

You obviously don't know a thing about Mormonism.

 

About 30 years ago two young Mormons came to my door. I invited them in and compared their doctrine with the Bible. One fellow was a new convert to Mormonism, he had been raised Roman Catholic. This fellow would become very angry and obstinate. His partner was from Utah and had been raised a Mormon since birth. He actually listened and asked questions.

These two fellows came every week for about six months. Finally, they brought an elder, a man about 80 years old. This old man was very nice and missed his wife who had passed away very much. When I showed them scripture that we would be as angels in heaven and not marry he literally cried. He never came again.

I don't know if I convinced the fellow from Utah, but I got a chance to tell him the gospel, and I could tell he was really listening. I hope he did call on Jesus to forgive his sins and save him. The other fellow seemed hopeless, he would always get angry. I don't know if this is good or not, perhaps what I told him convicted him and this is why he became angry. I can only hope for the best.

 

This Video response has to do with the validity of the book of Mormon as truth. His final response is "FEELING". He pointed to his breast indicating the common Mormon testimony "I had a burning in my bosom" and I know by that FEELING the book of Mormon is true.

This is not how Christians come to know the Scripture is truth. Scripture provides everything necessary for it to be interpreted contextually as well as the principles for correct interpretation. The Scripture clearly teach that the Holy Spirit does teach the believer and that the scriptures are sufficient for doctrine, correction and instruction and principles to rightly interpret them.

The issue between Rome and Baptists is not if the Scriptures are the Word of God but if the scriptures are sufficient for faith and practice and do the scriptures provide everything necessary for a child of God to know the truth. Rome says no, Scriptures say yes.

The issue is Rome's word versus God's Word! Rome and its counsels pervert the plain sense of the Word of God.

Rome is like the JW's "governing counsel" and like Mormonisms apostolic board and prophets who are the authorized interpreters of God's word instead of the common believer.

 

It's been a long time, but I do remember them talking about this burning in their breast.

They love to talk about the two sticks in Eze 37;

Eze 37:15 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,
16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:
17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.
18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?
19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.

Mormons interpret this passage to be speaking of the Bible and the Book of Mormon. This is how they justify having two books. They really know very little of the Bible except proof texts they use to attempt to prove their doctrine. They really didn't seem to know much about the Book of Mormon either, they just seemed to be trained what to think and say.

 

Of course that is their general SUMMARY statement. However, it is the BURNING IN THE BOSOM that is the actual indicator they are being led of the Holy Spirit into truth. The Mormon in the first video plainly told you the Holy Spirit led them by "FEELING" and pointed to his chest when he said it. I guess you know better than a 30 year veteran Mormon???? You simply do not know what you speak about.

That is not how Baptists are led by the Spirit or how Baptists come to know truth. You are trying to make an analogy between how Mormon's and JW's reach truth so you can apply it to Baptists. The analogy is false! Your information is false.

 

You are not going to get through to a Mormon discussing history, you have to convince them they are a sinner going to hell like anyone else, and that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God who died for their sins and rose again, and that if they place their trust in him they will be saved.

They believe Joseph Smith recovered what was lost, so discussing church history is meaningless to them.

 

Here is the problem of your manufactured insulting scenario! Where in Scripture does it declare or teach a "burning in the bosom" is the evidence of the Holy Spirit's leadership? NOWHERE!

So your contrived little insulting scheme fails right at the foundation upon which all your following argumentation is built.

When the Mormon is faced with the same question they FLEE THE WORD OF GOD to their UNINSPIRED SOURCES just like you do and just like Rome does. So really, Lutherans and Catholics have more in common with Mormon's and JW's then Baptists.

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The very analogy you have chosen to illustrate your point is an insult as well as erroneous. You are intentionaly by design comparing the Baptist approach to scripture to that of cults and there is no factual comparison. You have failed to understand the cults you have determined to use and you are still failing but what you are not failing to do is your determination to reduce it to that level of comparison. So don't tell me you are not intentionally attempting to insult Bible believers.

 

I ask them, "Do you really want to be a god of your own world?"

 

He left because he couldn't win an argument, and now he comes back and picks up where he left off, again insulting Baptists by comparing them with a cult. He should have stayed away and kept his condescending and insulting thoughts to himself.

He needs to either follow his new denomination's belief in the final authority of scripture or convert to Romanism where he can equate tradition and scripture and even elevate tradition over scripture without being hypocritical.

 

A Mormon once asked me if I read the book of Mormon. I said yes ( I was polite enough not to tell him that it was one of the most boring books I have ever read.) He then asked me about what it said at the end of the book particularily the phrase

To which their Doctrine and Covenants explain:

I said I never felt that the book was true. So, the whole determiner of what is true is how I personally feel about it? Rather than it being objectively true on its own merits and by reason?

The thing is even Jesus who lived among us gave evidence that his claims were true by 1) by being objectively true even his prophesies came to pass and 2) by his miracles. the fact even though he showed his power and divinity by his miracles, people still didn't believe. He didn't ask them to rely on how they felt. The apostles witnessed his resurrection! They didn't have a burning in their bussom to know Jesus rose from the dead! They saw him with their own eyes.

 

He is attempting to show that Mormons/baptist make mistakes int heir theologies due to looking to scriptures as the ONLY source for doctrines/practices, and misinterprete the Bible to get some of their doctrines/practices...

Problem is thatMormons MUCH closer to RCC, as BOTH hold to extar biblical sources, and for modern prophets/Apostles giving the 'right meaning" of the Bible!

 

I'll turn the tables on you: Mormons, RCs, JWs, and Magisterial Protestants cannot substantiate their beliefs using scripture alone; they all have to resort to extra-biblical and unbiblical sources, whereas the Baptists can substantiate their beliefs based on scripture alone. So, which of these groups has introduced "new" doctrines?