It's All Greek To Me?

I agree with your post,

I agree with your post. But the punishment of Edom is mentioned along with the "hatred" of Esau. The point I want to make is that neither Edom's wickedness nor the resulting punishment was due to an preexisting, unconditional hatred of God towards Esau. Edom was laid waste because of their wickedness, not because hated them before Esau was born.

Now the fact that both Jacob and Esau were laid waste, but Jacob was raised up again, THAT has something to do with God loving Jacob and hating Esau.

Compare...

Malachi 1:4- Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the Lord of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the Lord hath indignation for ever.

Malachi 3:6- 6 For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

 

Also, the same Hebrew word is used in the following passages.

Genesis 29:31- And when the LORD saw that Leah was hated, H8130 he opened her womb: but Rachel was barren.

Genesis 29:33- And she conceived again, and bare a son; and said, Because the LORD hath heard that I was hated, H8130 he hath therefore given me this son also: and she called his name Simeon.

 

Luther judged it likely that in the end Esau was saved:

Luther's Works Vol. 6

 

...yea, he didn't like the book of James either...

 

I came across this quote in my reading this morning...

The ideal interpreter would be one who has entered
into that strange first-century world,
has felt its whole strangeness,
has sojourned in it until he has lived himself into it,
thinking and feeling as one of those to whom the Gospel first came;
and who will then return into our world,
and give to the truth he has discerned
a body out of the stuff of our own thought.
If there are other qualifications of which it is less fitting
to speak in an academic lecture,
I may be allowed to hint at them in a phrase familiar
to theologians—testimonium Spiritus Sancti internum.
C. H. Dodd, inaugural lecture at Cambridge, in F. W. Dillistone, C. H. Dodd: Interpreter of the New Testament​

The first step would be to step aside from the Calvinism/Arminian debate and examine the NT text and its OT source.
Many biblical texts center around common themes:

1) God's deity - his unlimited grace and judgement
2) Humanity - our diligence towards disobedience
3) Prosperity - God's promise of peace and joy​

In the text we see God's grace and judgement, and eventual prosperity in the multitude of interpretations of the words meanings.

Rob

 

God hates in a way and fashion that NONE of us here can really relate to and understand, as His is based upon perfect understanding, non emotional, just due to Him being Holy and perfect in all of his attributes and ways!

 

God is Holy, perfection in all of His attributes, and no created being can fully realize and understand what that really means!