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Its of Faith so to be of Grace !

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    Brightfame52 Well-Known Member

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    Rom 4:16

    16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

    Many will say that Faith/Believing isn't a work because they are contrasted with one another, e.g. Rom 4:5

    But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

    So this seems to support the ideal that believing, a act that man does, isn't a work, but does it ? The fact is, there is a real contrast between believing and working, but its not because Faith/Believing isnt a work. The contrast is valid when we understand that believing, though an act/work man does, its not mans work, but Gods Work in us. Remember when Jesus said this Jn 6:29

    Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

    You see that ? Jesus answer to their question wasn't to their sentiments, however the reply He gave reveals a great truth, that the believing on the name of the Son of God, is Gods Work in us . Yes believing on the Son is Gods Work, not ours. Its only when we understand that the act of Believing it takes to believe on Christ for all Salvation, isn't our own work out of the flesh, our own human faith by nature, but that its an act we do because its totally empowered by the Grace of God, the Spirit of God, Acts 18:27

    27 And when he was disposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples to receive him: who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed through grace:

    Then the contrast is valid !
     
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    Its when we understand that to believe on Christ is not of ourselves, but given to us by Grace Phil 1:29

    For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

    See that ? If its given unto you to believe, then its not of yourself, therefore its not your work, but Gods Jn 6:29

    The word given charizomai means:

    to give graciously, give freely, bestow

    Also its made up from of the word charis which is translated grace 130 x in the NT

    So thats why Paul wrote believers believed through or because of Grace Acts 18:27 and why he wrote in Rom 4:16

    Therefore it is of faith[believing], that it might be by grace;

    But if we say that our believing/faith is of ourselves, you default to a work salvation, and forfeit the contrast of believing and works !
     
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    So when we see scripture about believing e.g Rom 4:5

    But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

    Then we know that the believing here is the Work of God Jn 6:29, that its the Grace of God Acts 18:27, that it is given by Grace Phil 1:29 and that the believing is not of themselves, but the Gift of God Eph 2:8 !
     
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