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Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by don 3426, Dec 24, 2004.

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  1. don 3426

    don 3426 New Member

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    I found jerry falwell to be an incredibly brilliant and has great foresight on the Bible and what a christian should be.
     
    #1 don 3426, Dec 24, 2004
  2. Ps104_33

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    I cant say that I dont agree with you Don. I dont agree with everything about Jerry Falwell but at least he consistently takes a stand against the biased and liberal news media but dont expect much agreement with most of the Baptists on this board as most are brainwashed by the media which has done a good job demonizing him.
     
    #2 Ps104_33, Dec 24, 2004
  3. izzaksdad

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    Guys,

    You are absolutley right about Dr. Falwell. He very well may have been the single greatest influence in the recent Pres. election- by that I mean the info. he sent out, the voter registration emphasis, etc.

    Liberty Mountain and Falwell Ministries is a miracle of God. If you have never seen the video of the beginning and the stories behind it, it is worth the watch or read.
     
    #3 izzaksdad, Dec 24, 2004
  4. stevec

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    I agree Ps104_33. I may not agree with everything Dr. Falwell says or does but I admire that he takes a biblically-based stance on issues and refuses to bow to outside pressure.
     
    #4 stevec, Dec 25, 2004
  5. Ps104_33

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    Another thing about Falwell. Whenever I see or hear him on radio or TV debating or discussing a controversial issue, he is aways the gentleman and handles his comments in a diplomatic and polite way. Never raises his voice and always treats his opponent with respect. He is always smiling and never misses the opportunity to get the gospel out over the airwaves. Ohte than the lies that the media spreads about him to try to get the mainstream to dislike him, the man is above reproach.
     
    #5 Ps104_33, Dec 25, 2004
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    BTW,
    MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU ALL AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!
     
    #6 Ps104_33, Dec 25, 2004
  7. Dr. Bob

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    For years, many have called Dr. Falwell has been called "pseudo" fundamentalist by his critics because of his cooperative spirit. Many historic ifb have cooperated (think - much of early fundamentalism was cross-denominational) but some modern isolationists feel such is sin.

    Now that Falwell has linked openly with the SBC, they will villify him further. I certainly do not agree with all going on in his ministries, but I am considering him a brother in Christ.
     
    #7 Dr. Bob, Dec 26, 2004
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    I recently heard Dr. falwell remind everyone that HE IS NOT A YOUNGSTER, and, statistically, he doesn't have a lotta time left, and that he, more than ever now, wants to do that which HONORS CHRIST, and to spread His Gospel to as many as possible.

    Some put him down because he tries to influence politicians. Where in Scripture is he told not to do that? Scripture says that, good or evil, GOD PLACED THEM IN AUTHORITY...and as individual people, JESUS DIED FOR THEIR SINS ALSO.

    Others put him down because he isn't KJVO. Again, there's no SCRIPTURAL basis for this put-down.

    I don't agree with Falwell 100% but it's doubtful if HE would agree 100% with ME. HE was called to be a pastor while I was not. And I've NOT heard him preach any extra-Scriptural doctrines.

    But then of course he has NOT been put down nearly as much as His Master JESUS CHRIST was.
     
    #8 robycop3, Dec 26, 2004
  9. Scarlett O.

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    Oh, dear...

    here I go...

    I agree that Jerry Falwell is a Christian and was called to preach.

    But I don't listen to him as a rule, because he is too political in the pulpit. He mocks too much. I used to listen to him alot even though I was many times irritated and confused at the way he preached.

    I heard him tell a joke once about homosexuality from the pulpit. He said, "We used to call them queers, then we called them fags, then we called them gays, then we called the homosexuals, and now we just call them democrats."

    He grinned at himself and the congregation howled with laughter as the cameras panned over them.

    What if there were a homosexual person flipping channels? Did they need to hear that? Did they need to know that Christians were laughing at their sin. Laughing? No. They needed to hear the truth about their bondage of sin and that God wanted them to repent because they are fearfully and wonderfully made and He loves them.

    I don't disagree with his beliefs and convictions. I wholeheartedly disagree with his general presentation of them.

    While I don't listen to him anymore, I don't necessarily have any disdain for him either.

    Peace-

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  10. JamesRay

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    Jerry Falwell is WAY too political.
     
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  11. don 3426

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    There are far too few people like Jerry Falwell, I admire him greatly and only hope i can become some of what he , billy graham and franklin graham have been to spread the word. I believe there should be more christians with in the political spectrum. I do not believe his accusations are wrong, I actually believe christians should pinpoint the wrong people are causeing in our society. I believe homosexuality is compleitly wrong and should come as an embarasment to those who do it. I believe the joke he told was to make those who are like that stick out so they me relize what they do is wrong. Scarlett o. , I understand ur side of how we should hate the sin and love the sinner, I know that Jerry Falwell is just a human as u and i and while he was up ther he probably got angry about how homosexuals are invading everyones space with their loud prtests and disgusting publicity and reacted as i would and put it out in a form of a mocking. but all in all people make mistakes but I still believe Jerry has been a great preacher for christ and i believe he is one of the best.
     
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    I won't argue your point, don, and perhaps I judge him too harshly.

    Let's just agree that we need to keep all of our great pastors and teachers in our prayers.

    Peace-

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    #12 Scarlett O., Dec 26, 2004
  13. Phillip

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    If what was said about Jerry and his involvement in Jim Bakker's situation was true, the way Bakker described it in his book, then Jerry was wrong.

    If it is true, he was asked and promised Bakker to just run the PTL club for a short amount of time, during which Bakker accused him of taking full control and making moves to get rid of Bakker's control.

    If this is true, he lied to Bakker.

    Do NOT get me wrong. I am NOT a Bakker fan, but I think Jerry could have sued him for the statements in his book, if they were not true.

    Just a thought. Of course, he is human like all of us.

    Give it up Dr. Bob, just because he went SBC, does not make him a sinner. Some of us are good people. :D [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
    #13 Phillip, Dec 27, 2004
  14. don 3426

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    SBC = southern baptist convention?
    and whats wrong with the sbc?
     
    #14 don 3426, Dec 27, 2004
  15. Dr. Bob

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    HEY WAIT A MINUTE. He's my friend. I have a certificate on my wall with his signature on it.

    Read what I said:
    Now, he saw the SBC in the ugly days and he STILL wanted to associate with them. Can't imagine that, except that there must be the sale of another brick in it.
     
    #15 Dr. Bob, Dec 28, 2004
  16. rsr

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    Yep. And that he could ride into the convention on his white horse and deliver it from the apostates.

    Maybe I'm cynical.

    Don't answer that.
     
    #16 rsr, Dec 28, 2004
  17. Plain Old Bill

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    John Rice was a fundamentalist,So is Dr. Bob,as is Jerry Falwell.Truth is everybody who does something great for God gets critisized by Christian and heathen .
    Liberty Baptist ministers to gay people.They also minister to people with drug and alchohol problems.Liberty under Dr. Falwells leadership has many ministries and serves well.
    We Baptist complain about people to much! I'll bet the Bickerson's were Baptist.
     
    #17 Plain Old Bill, Dec 30, 2004
  18. don 3426

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    Anyone who disagrees with Jerry falwell cant be a true baptist, his veiws are Godly views.
     
    #18 don 3426, Jan 8, 2005
  19. onecoolcanuk

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    I don't necessarily disagree with Falwell's beliefs therefore I am a Baptist. But I am a Christian before a Baptist.

    There is one thing I don't like about Falwell though. Back after 9/11 he was talking about how it was God's judgement because of homosexuality,etc. One, I don't agree with that. Two, he is not consistent. Now he supports a war in retaliation for 9/11, when first he said it was God's judgement. So he supports a war in retaliation against "God's judgement". He is confused I believe. Kinda John Kerry-like eh? "I was against the war before I supported it" Falwell would say.
     
    #19 onecoolcanuk, Jan 8, 2005
  20. don 3426

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    I do believe 9/11 was Gods judgement on the way america has been going. but the retaliation was against further terror attacks. so its not john kerry like. And he is consistant hes just picked on by the media because of ther anti christian views. I was kidding about the previus statement about ppl not being baptist, iwas in a rush so i frogot to signify that. But I wouldnt compare a really good christian and one of the only ppl out ther with the curage to say somthing, to a person who clames they are catholic but gives up his morral views just to become popular.
     
    #20 don 3426, Jan 9, 2005
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