Jesus/God

[Judith]

Jesus is God incarnate. Fully man and Fully God. So, when Jesus died on the cross did God die?

 

[KenH]

That is why Christ had to be born and have a human body. His human body died.

 

[Alan Gross]

He Gave Up His Spirit and His Spirit Returned to Heaven (to Sprinkle Blood on The Mercy Seat.)

 

[37818]

Jesus is God incarnate. Fully man and Fully God. So, when Jesus died on the cross did God die?

God cannot die.
Jesus' soul died when He was forsaken by God, Matthew 27:46.
While He dealt with our sin, He as God maintained all of His creation, Hebrews 1:3.
And He finished the payment of our sins prior to His physical death, John 19:28.

 

[percho]

He Gave Up His Spirit and His Spirit Returned to Heaven (to Sprinkle Blood on The Mercy Seat.)

I can show why I disagree with the above.

The sprinkling of the blood would have required for the Christ at the time of sprinkling to be chief priest.

Now consider the following scriptures.

and this he said of the Spirit, which those believing in him were about to receive; for not yet was the Holy Spirit, because Jesus was not yet glorified. John 7:39 YLT
'But I tell you the truth; it is better for you that I go away, for if I may not go away, the Comforter will not come unto you, and if I go on, I will send Him unto you; John 16:7 YLT
'And now, glorify me, Thou Father, with Thyself, with the glory that I had before the world was, with Thee; John 17:5 YLT
so also the Christ did not glorify himself to become chief priest, but He who spake unto him: 'My Son thou art, I to-day have begotten thee;' Hebrewes 5:5 YLT

who through him (Jesus the Christ the Son of the living God) do believe in God, (The Father) who did raise out of the dead, and glory to him did give, so that your faith and hope may be in God. 1 Peter 1:21 YLT
Paul, an apostle -- not from men, nor through man, but through Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who did raise him out of the dead -- Gal 1:1 YLT

 

[Van]

Jesus is God incarnate. Fully man and Fully God. So, when Jesus died on the cross did God die?

No, when His Spirit departed, the body died. Same as you or me. But the difference is our human spirits were created within us at conception, and His Spirit is Eternal with no beginning. Ours is human, His is Divine, the Logos, the Second Person of the Trinity.

 

[Van]

So if Christ's Spirit did not die, what is the big deal? His bodily resurrection. His body was dead, buried and then arose, proving our faith in His promises of the gospel can be relied upon. He paid the price, bought humanity ransoming mankind such that the forgiveness of sin is available to those who believe.

 

[kyredneck]

when Jesus died on the cross did God die?

Dead in the flesh but alive in the Spirit.

He Gave Up His Spirit and His Spirit Returned to Heaven (to Sprinkle Blood on The Mercy Seat.)

9 Now this, He ascended, what is it but that he also descended into the lower parts of the earth? Eph 4

18 Because Christ also suffered for sins once, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God; being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit;
19 in which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison,
20 that aforetime were disobedient, when the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water: 1 Pet 3

6 And angels that kept not their own principality, but left their proper habitation, he hath kept in everlasting bonds under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Jude

 

[Van]

Did Christ ascend to sprinkle the mercy seat?

Or did Christ become the mercy seat, sprinkled with His own blood on the cross?

1 John 2:2 and He Himself is the means of reconciliation for our sins; and not only ours, but for all of humanity.

 

[Alan Gross]

Dead in the flesh but alive in the Spirit.



9 Now this, He ascended, what is it but that he also descended into the lower parts of the earth? Eph 4

18 Because Christ also suffered for sins once, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God; being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit;
19 in which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison,
20 that aforetime were disobedient, when the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water: 1 Pet 3

6 And angels that kept not their own principality, but left their proper habitation, he hath kept in everlasting bonds under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Jude

"There were three items in the ark: the golden pot of manna, Aaron’s rod and two stone tablets on which God had written the Ten Commandments. (Hebrews 9:4) These items are actually symbols of man’s rebellion. The golden pot of manna represents man’s rejection of God’s provision. The rod of Aaron represents man’s rejection of God’s leadership and the two stone tablets of God’s commandments represent man’s rejection of His standard of holiness.

"But because God delights in mercy, He had these items put away in the ark and covered with the mercy seat, which had two cherubim on it. (Hebrews 9:5) And once a year, the high priest would enter the holy of holies where the ark was and sprinkle the blood of the animal sacrifice on the mercy seat. This means that God’s eyes, represented by the eyes of the cherubim, did not see the symbols of man’s rebellion. As long as the blood was there on the mercy seat, He saw only the blood and accepted the people.

"Today, Jesus is our High Priest and He Himself has sprinkled His own blood on the true mercy seat in heaven—the throne of grace. (Hebrews 9:23–26) Interestingly, the number of times that the Old Testament high priest had to sprinkle the blood on the mercy seat—seven—speaks of Jesus’ perfect sacrifice. And because His sacrifice is perfect and He is perfect, we who are in Christ have perfect standing forever before God!

"My friend, as you come to God today, don’t worry about falling short of His standard of holiness. He does not see your sins. (Hebrews 8:12, 10:17) He sees His Son’s blood on the mercy seat. You have perfect standing before Him forever!"

© Copyright Joseph Prince, 2008–2018

 

[percho]

Did Christ ascend to sprinkle the mercy seat?

Or did Christ become the mercy seat, sprinkled with His own blood on the cross?

1 John 2:2 and He Himself is the means of reconciliation for our sins; and not only ours, but for all of humanity.

I liked. Because IMHO; He was, at obedient death, even the death of the cross, the mercy seat, the propitiation place, being the soul of the flesh of him that, was in the blood of him, he dismissed, unto the hands of the Father from whence it had come.

The spirit of the breath of lives, God had breathed into the nostrils of Adam, who was the figure of him to come.

Jesus 2 Cor 5:21 YLT first part for him who did not know sin, in our behalf He did make sin, therefore this from Gen 2:1 YLT applied; dying thou dost die.' and Jesus the Son of God was dead for three days.

After three days did Jesus need to be made alive in order for our sins to be removed, in order for us to be made the righteousness of God in him? Consider: Keep in mind to date Jesus is the only one born of woman who has died and been raised to die no more, no more to return to corruption. The one and only to date.

1 Cor 15:16,17 for if dead persons do not rise, neither hath Christ risen, and if Christ hath not risen, vain is your faith, ye are yet in your sins;
V"s 3,4 for I delivered to you first, what also I did receive, that Christ died for our sins, according to the Writings, and that he (Christ) was buried, and that he (Christ) hath risen on the third day, according to the Writings,
Christ died and Christ was raised. V 35 ἀλλ᾽ ἐρεῖ τις Πῶς ἐγείρονται οἱ νεκροί ποίῳ δὲ σώματι ἔρχονται paraphrased - How are being raised the dead ones to what yet body are they coming?

Why, then, the law? on account of the transgressions it was added, till the seed might come to which the promise hath been made, (Christ, the seed, not seeds but seed of Abraham V 16, the Son of God) having been set in order through messengers in the hand of a mediator -- and the mediator is not of one, and God is one -- the law, then, is against the promises of God? -- let it not be! for if a law was given that was able to make alive, truly by law there would have been the righteousness, Gal 3:19-21 YLT
Last part of 2 Cor 5:21 that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Through the faith, of Jesus. Through the obedience, of one, Jesus.

 

[JesusFan]

Jesus is God incarnate. Fully man and Fully God. So, when Jesus died on the cross did God die?

Just God the Son did, and only just in his humanity!