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Jesus . . . the . . . I AM

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by 37818, Nov 16, 2023.

  1. 37818

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    Exodus 3:14, ". . . And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. . . ."

    John 8:24, ". . . I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM he, ye shall die in your sins. . . ."

    John 8:28, ". . . Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I AM he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. . . ."

    John 8:56, ". . . Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. . . ."

    John 8:58, ". . . Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM. . . ."

    John 13:19, ". . . Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that I AM he. . . ."

    John 18:5-6, ". . . They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith unto them, I AM he. And Judas also, which betrayed him, stood with them. As soon then as he had said unto them, I AM he, they went backward, and fell to the ground. . . ."

    John 18:8, ". . . Jesus answered, I have told you that I AM he: if therefore ye seek me, let these go their way: . . ."
     
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  2. Alan Gross

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    All Very Good Stuff. Br. P.!
     
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    How about? "I will be who I will be," as I understand is the literal of the Hebrew.

    And the Word became flesh, and did tabernacle among us, and we beheld his glory, glory as of an only begotten of a father, full of grace and truth. John 1:18

    And then all the others listed above?
     
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    A little extra wordy, but worth checking out.

    Benson Commentary
    Exodus 3:14. God said — Two names God would be known by:

    1st, A name that speaks what he is in himself, I AM THAT I AM. The Septuagint renders the words ειμι ο ων, I AM the existing Being, or HE WHO IS; and the Chaldee, I AM HE WHO IS, and WHO WILL BE. That is, I am He that enjoys an essential, independent, immutable, and necessary existence, He that IS, and WAS, and IS TO COME. It explains his name Jehovah, and signifies, 1st, That he is self- existent: he has his being of himself, and has no dependance on any other. And being self-existent, he cannot but be self-sufficient, and therefore all-sufficient, and the inexhaustible fountain of being and blessedness.

    2d, That he is eternal and unchangeable: the same yesterday, to-day, and for ever. For the words are with equal propriety rendered, I WILL BE WHAT I AM, or, I AM WHAT I WILL BE, or, I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE. Other beings are, and have been, and shall be; but because what they have been might have been otherwise, and what they are might possibly not have been at all, and what they shall be may be very different from what now is therefore their changeable, dependant, and precarious essence, which to-day may be one thing, to- morrow another thing, and the next day possibly nothing at all, scarce deserves the name of being.

    There is another consideration which makes this name peculiarly applicable to God, namely that he is the fountain of all being and perfection, and that from him all things have derived their existence; so that it is he alone that has life in himself: and no creature, of whatever rank or order, has so much as an existence of its own: For in him we live, and move, and have our being.

    And though divers of God’s attributes are, through his goodness, participated by his creatures, yet because they possess them in a way so inferior to that transcendent, peculiar, and divine manner in which they belong to God, the Scriptures seem absolutely to exclude created beings from any title to those attributes.

    Thus our Saviour says, There is none good but one, that is God. Thus St. Paul terms God the only Potentate, though the earth be shared by several potentates; and the only wise God, though many men and the holy angels are wise. And thus he describes him as one who only hath immortality, although angels and human souls are also immortal. In so incommunicable a manner does the superiority of God’s nature make him possess those very excellences which the diffusiveness of his goodness has induced him to communicate.

    3d, That he is faithful and true to all his promises, unchangeable in his word, as well as in his nature; and not a man that he should lie. Let Israel know this; I AM hath sent me unto you.
     
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    The thread title suggests that the Second Person of the Trinity, Logos or Word, manifested Himself during OT times, in various ways. No statement that He did or did not is made.

    Which Person of the Trinity was speaking from the Burning Bush of Exodus. In Exodus 3:2 we see that the angel (messenger) of the LORD (Yahweh) spoke from the burning bush. The phrase "angel of the LORD" appears more than 50 times in the NASB version of the OT, and about a dozen times a similarly translated phrase, "angel of the Lord" appears in the NT. I think it is unlikely any of these NT renderings refers to the Second Person of the Trinity.
     
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