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Jesus the Palestinian

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LadyEagle, Jul 8, 2006.

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  1. LadyEagle

    LadyEagle <b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>

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    The cartoon & rest of the article is here:

    http://www.pmw.org.il/
     
    #1 LadyEagle, Jul 8, 2006
  2. Martin

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    The very suggestion is blasphemy. Jesus was a Jew while on earth.
     
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  3. Magnetic Poles

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    Why is it blasphemy? What was most important was Jesus' humanity, not his ethnicity.

    Cries of blasphemy are what cause wars. I think God is perfectly capable of handling any mistaken theology without people getting all upset.
     
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  4. Martin

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    ==Because it is contrary to the clear witness of Holy Scripture (Luke 2:21-35, Gal 4:4-5, John 4:22, etc, etc). Any claim that Jesus was anything other than Jewish is error, very serious error. Why? If Jesus was not Jewish than Jesus was not the Messiah. This is no small matter.

    Jesus was Jewish, Jesus is the Messiah, to say otherwise is heresy.


    ==I am sure that Paul, the other Apostles, and the millions of Christians through the centuries will be upset that you were not around to give them that piece of advice. Imagine what hardship and suffering they could have avoided if they had just been willing to leave heretics alone.

    No, Scripture commands Christians to "contend earnestly for the faith". Thank God many in the church have understood that command, and taken it very seriously.
     
    #4 Martin, Jul 8, 2006
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    1. I am in agreement with MP here that his ethnicity is of little consequence to his mission, since he did not come only to be the Messiah of the Jews, but for the Gentiles as well.

    2. What I do find offensive and blasphemous is the idea that Jesus was the first Shahid. There are theological errors there. Jesus was in no way a shahid in any sense of the word. He freely gave his life out of love, not hate, and didn't kill others in the process.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #5 Joseph_Botwinick, Jul 8, 2006
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    Exactly.

    Jesus was the fulfillment of prophecy given to the Nation of Israel through Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, of a Redeemer, of Messiah. Jesus came as Messiah for the Jews first, then the Gentiles, (including Palestinians), who are grafted in. Jesus fulfilled the Feasts of Israel. Jesus fulfilled the types throughout the OT. Jesus fulfilled the atonement for sin - Jesus is the High Priest - and so much more. That is why the geneology of Jesus Christ is woven throughout the Scriptures and why the NT Gospel writers tell of the geneology of Jesus Christ. It is much more than being "mixed up" on theology. To deny Jesus was a Jew is to deny He is the Messiah and to deny God's fulfillment of the Promised Redeemer starting in Genesis.

    Also, Jesus is the Son of the Living God. To say all that matters is his humanity is also blasphemy. Muslims don't deny Jesus existed. They accept the fact that He existed as a prophet. BUT--they deny that He is the Son of the Living God. Big Difference. To equate a shahid, one who commits suicide while MURDERING other people and equate that evil from the pit of hell with Jesus, Who died for the Sin of the World, Who willingly laid down His Life so others CAN LIVE is blasphemy.

    The whole concept of Jesus being a shahid and a Palestinian is sheer blasphemy and had it's origins from the very father of lies, satan, and his demons.
     
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    He needed to be from the blood line of David to fulfill the prophesy in II Sam 7
     
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    jesus was jew :Fish:
     
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  9. Forever settled in heaven

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    no question abt that!

    however, what did the Palestinian Jews then look like?

    one artist reconstruction lacks the blue-eyed Nordic look so popular in most iconography today--
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    this one (by a "forensic medical artist": http://www.rejesus.co.uk/expressions/faces_jesus/gallery/bbc.html) makes him look pretty Palestinian:
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    point is, we don't know if He looked particularly Ashkanazi, Shephardic, or Palestinian (hmm, prob not Ethiopic/Falasha?).

    so looks shdn't matter--some wld argue against ANY artistic representation whatsoever--n any objections shd be on the theological plane.
     
    #9 Forever settled in heaven, Jul 10, 2006
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    Exactly! absolutely! Destroy this and there is no Messiah for the Jews or the gentiles. Blasphemy is appropriate and needed. No room for error here. Anything else is another gospel and another God.
     
    #10 Revmitchell, Jul 10, 2006
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