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Joe Biden brags about having “the most extensive and inclusive VOTER FRAUD organization” in history.

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Scott Downey

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I do believe the democrats cheat, our election system is easy to rig. There should never be anonymous ballots, there is no way to trace that, the election process countrywide is generally illegitimate. Envelopes are signed, but once the ballot leaves the envelope they can all go into the same pile, even though they are supposed to segregate late ballots, there is no proof it is done, no proof one voter voted only one time, no proof the ballot came from someone legally allowed to vote.

So there is no accountability, no proof of wrongdoing or right doing. It is a crime that cannot be prosecuted or proven unless someone talks, and then it is just hearsay evidence as there is no proof.

With todays printers and computer tech, it would be very easy to print tens or hundreds of thousands of ballots, and then have the printer mark them with a pen mark for the candidate you want to win. Just a very few people would have to be involved in that. Then drive them to the polling station at 3 am n the morning.

Every ballot should be signed by the voter, have the voter's address, and polling location written on it.
IT should be treated as a legal document, because the way its done right now, no one can have any confidence in the integrity of the vote.

You could never get away with a document like this in any kind of transaction, it would be rejected, but oh, its ok to do ballots like this?
 
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canadyjd

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I voted. My ID was checked and matched to the rolls. I signed on a computer and the poll workers matched it to their records. Prior to be given a blank ballot, two poll workers put their initials on the ballot.

Lots of safeguards in place.

I suspect most places across the country have such safeguards in place. Any significant “cheating” would require a large conspiracy at several levels.

If we really believe such a conspiracy exists across several states (not just local officials) and involves tens of thousands of poll workers, what the s the remedy?

peace to you
 

Scott Downey

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I voted. My ID was checked and matched to the rolls. I signed on a computer and the poll workers matched it to their records. Prior to be given a blank ballot, two poll workers put their initials on the ballot.

Lots of safeguards in place.

I suspect most places across the country have such safeguards in place. Any significant “cheating” would require a large conspiracy at several levels.

If we really believe such a conspiracy exists across several states (not just local officials) and involves tens of thousands of poll workers, what the s the remedy?

peace to you
Nobody marks my ballot but me in VA, and the only mark is next to a candidates name, not initialized by anyone. I vote in VA.
The ballots where fraud most easily occurs is mail in ballots.
Ballot fraud on a massive scale would require only a few people. Other criminal organizations also exist and they don't talk so neither would those involved in voter fraud.

There was just recently an informant that described one way he and others had been employed to rig elections because ballots are anonymous. he said it was simple process to do, and said it happens mostly with democrats and occurs across the country.

Now a report is out saying late received ballots were being back dated to the 3rd to make the allowed into the same pile of regular ballots in PA.

BREAKING: Project Veritas: Pennsylvania USPS Whistleblower Exposes Anti-Trump Postmaster's Illegal Order to Back-Date Ballots (VIDEO)
 

Scott Downey

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Matthew 10:16
Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

We don't perpetrate crimes ourselves being like sheep, the dove part. But we must be aware the world is full of wolves (criminals), and know when things are harmful, deceitful, deceptive, lies, wrong, bad, evil, the serpent part, and not try to deny that the world is what it is.
 

Scott Downey

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It has been my understanding that the vote is suppose to be a secret ballet where voters vote in person.
Secrecy in Voting in American History: No Secrets There | Social Logic
In person voting, that system works better than mail in anonymous voting.
Think about centuries ago, secret ballots were held in a large room and few people were allowed to vote, wealthy landowners mostly.
Todays nothing is like that, the mentally challenged, drug addicts, criminals can vote in some states.
Personally I don't think people who are totally dependent on government welfare should be allowed to vote, serious conflict of interest there.
People with early onset dementia should not have the vote, they are not of a sound mind.
Ballot harvesting should be illegal.
If you cant get to a controlled polling station, you should not have the right to vote, exception to overseas military and us government personal.
Voting should be a privilege not a right.
The practicality issues, and being nice, ignore the human tendency to be evil and defraud the system, leave open the door to fraudulent voting.

Felon Voting Rights
In the District of Columbia, Maine and Vermont, felons never lose their right to vote, even while they are incarcerated.
 

canadyjd

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In person voting, that system works better than mail in anonymous voting.
Think about centuries ago, secret ballots were held in a large room and few people were allowed to vote, wealthy landowners mostly.
Todays nothing is like that, the mentally challenged, drug addicts, criminals can vote in some states.
Personally I don't think people who are totally dependent on government welfare should be allowed to vote, serious conflict of interest there.
People with early onset dementia should not have the vote, they are not of a sound mind.
Ballot harvesting should be illegal.
If you cant get to a controlled polling station, you should not have the right to vote, exception to military.
Voting should be a privilege not a right.
The practicality issues, and being nice, ignore the human tendency to be evil and defraud the system, leave open the door to fraudulent voting.

Felon Voting Rights
In the District of Columbia, Maine and Vermont, felons never lose their right to vote, even while they are incarcerated.
The politicians in those areas passed laws to make that so. If the citizens cared, they would vote them out and change the law

peace to you
 

Reformed1689

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You don't think there is potential for voter fraud? If I wanted to, I could have voted three times this election.

Due to a clerk error, I am registered twice here in KY. Once as David Taylor at an old address, and as David Taylor Jr. at my current address. I've pointed this out multiple times and it is still not fixed. Then, on top of that, I received instructions at my KY address from the SC board of elections that my polling location in South Carolina had changed. I AM STILL REGISTERED THERE TOO even though I have lived in KY for several years!

The whole system is junk.
 

canadyjd

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You don't think there is potential for voter fraud? If I wanted to, I could have voted three times this election.

Due to a clerk error, I am registered twice here in KY. Once as David Taylor at an old address, and as David Taylor Jr. at my current address. I've pointed this out multiple times and it is still not fixed. Then, on top of that, I received instructions at my KY address from the SC board of elections that my polling location in South Carolina had changed. I AM STILL REGISTERED THERE TOO even though I have lived in KY for several years!

The whole system is junk.
I’m sure a dutiful, 75 year old volunteer election worker would have caught the error, reported you to the police and stopped the fraud...... if you voted repub

peace to you
 

canadyjd

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You don't think there is potential for voter fraud? If I wanted to, I could have voted three times this election.

Due to a clerk error, I am registered twice here in KY. Once as David Taylor at an old address, and as David Taylor Jr. at my current address. I've pointed this out multiple times and it is still not fixed. Then, on top of that, I received instructions at my KY address from the SC board of elections that my polling location in South Carolina had changed. I AM STILL REGISTERED THERE TOO even though I have lived in KY for several years!

The whole system is junk.
I’m sure a dutiful, 75 year old volunteer election worker would have caught the error, reported you to the police and stopped the fraud...... if you voted repub.

peace to you
 

Scott Downey

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It happened in Russia on the way to communism.
Democrats are set on that socialist path to victory.
Only way they can win is to follow that socialist method.
History Repeats Itself: Lenin's Actions to Steal the 1917 Election in Russia Are Eerily Similar to the Democrats Steal Today

I suppose the naysayers have their heads in the sand, not noticing the LEFT's intolerance and their violent actions in American cities.

Republican senate is going to be blocking the LEFT for at least the next 2 years.
 

Scott Downey

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We really must get rid of anonymous ballots. There is no reason for them to be anonymous.
Such ballots today open the door to fraud, they are untraceable.
It is the only good way to restore trust in the elections.
Doing this is good common sense.
The democrats will fight this hard.
 

David Kent

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Trump obviously tried to rig the ballot, telling his supporters to vote twice, delaying the mail ballots, then declaring that he had won when hardly any votes had been counted and finally trying to stop votes being counted,. He did all that openly. He is a crook.
He made it quite obvious that if he loses, he may refuse to quite the White House. One of our commentators at the time said he was inviting civil war.
 

Scott Downey

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Trump obviously tried to rig the ballot, telling his supporters to vote twice, delaying the mail ballots, then declaring that he had won when hardly any votes had been counted and finally trying to stop votes being counted,. He did all that openly. He is a crook.
He made it quite obvious that if he loses, he may refuse to quite the White House. One of our commentators at the time said he was inviting civil war.

Not enough personal angst. like skin in the game yet for a civil war.
People will start looking ahead to the next election.
If we want to restore public confidence across political parties in the elections, we must get rid of anonymous ballots.
 

Scott Downey

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I just contacted my VA congressmen and Ted Cruz,(came to mind someway)
And want them to support getting rid of anonymous ballots.
Saying,

Hi, I want you to support legislation to get rid of anonymous ballots.
It is the only good way to restore trust in the elections which is abysmally low.
There is no reason for them to be anonymous.
Such ballots today open the door to fraud, they are untraceable.
It is the only good way to restore trust in the elections.
When republicans win, democrats claim ballot fraud, when democrats win, republicans claim ballot fraud.
There is no way to prove a ballot came from a single voter who was a legitimate voter.
Ballots should be like legal documents, no transactions today would accept a ballot they way they are now as legitimate.
Ballots should be voter signed, have the name written on them, address, poling location.
Ballots could even be watermarked to make it hard to illegally copy.
Modern printers can create ballots and even mark them by the thousands very easily.
Doing this is good common sense.
If you want to restore public trust in the election system, this is something that must be done.
The outer signed envelope way used now is worthless to make certain people know the chain of custody has not been messed with.
Some people would fight this hard, you know they will.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Trump obviously tried to rig the ballot, telling his supporters to vote twice, delaying the mail ballots, then declaring that he had won when hardly any votes had been counted and finally trying to stop votes being counted,. He did all that openly. He is a crook.
He made it quite obvious that if he loses, he may refuse to quite the White House. One of our commentators at the time said he was inviting civil war.
Those hypocrites have falsely accused him of everything in the book. They are the guilty ones, not him. Open your eyes, and quit drinking the Kool-Aid.

Trump should take Hillary's advice and refuse to concede. It's nowhere near time to leave the WH. Still much to do.
 
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