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Joe denied communion.

Jerome

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He just went to the 11AM service at another church!

Biden attends Baptist church

"Biden was received warmly with a standing ovation. Biden, wearing a dark colored suit and light blue tie, sang along to the numerous songs played throughout the service until he was introduced"

"Standing under the gold and black painted words 'One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism,' Biden told the congregation...that he...decided to visit [their church] 'to get refreshed, to be given hope'."
 

MarysSon

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He just went to the 11AM service at another church!

Biden attends Baptist church

"Biden was received warmly with a standing ovation. Biden, wearing a dark colored suit and light blue tie, sang along to the numerous songs played throughout the service until he was introduced"

"Standing under the gold and black painted words 'One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism,' Biden told the congregation...that he...decided to visit [their church] 'to get refreshed, to be given hope'."
At least he won't defile the Eucharist there . . .
 

Reynolds

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He just went to the 11AM service at another church!

Biden attends Baptist church

"Biden was received warmly with a standing ovation. Biden, wearing a dark colored suit and light blue tie, sang along to the numerous songs played throughout the service until he was introduced"

"Standing under the gold and black painted words 'One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism,' Biden told the congregation...that he...decided to visit [their church] 'to get refreshed, to be given hope'."
Bad when Catholics moral compass is more on point than that of Baptists.
 

church mouse guy

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Daniel Greenfield of Front Page Magazine says that Freud uses a German word to describe a guy like Biden who gropes little girls and smells the hair of women and girls. Greenfield says that the German word is "creep."
 

church mouse guy

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Actually wrote an article on this today. Joe Biden Denied Communion: A Question of Faith

There is a group that is trying to get the South Carolina Catholic Bishop to force the priest who denied Biden to apologize. Their justification comes, of course, by cherry-picking verses.

The RCC will probably transfer him to somewhere far, far away. There was a priest Fr. Paul Kalchik in Chicago who presided over the burning of their rainbow flag in the parking lot after he and some others tried to cleanse the church. This angered the Cardinal of Chicago Cupich and the priest had to go into hiding to protect his life because Cardinal Cupich actually sent a couple of men around to ask the priest what would happen if he were dead. The RCC has a worldwide secret police force called the Santa Alleanza.

Chicago Priest Goes Into Hiding to Escape Cdl. Cupich's Punishment

"The true name of the Vatican's clandestine intelligence service is Santa Alleanza ("Holy Alliance") or L'Entità ("The Entity") according to Allen Dulles, the first director of the CIA. With motto being Cum Cruce et Gladio ("With the Cross and Sword"), it is said to have been created by Pope St. Pius V in 1566 in order to gather intelligence from the court of Elizabeth I and obtain her overthrow from power. This was long before the CIA even conceived of overthrowing governments."

Santa Alleanza: The Vatican Intelligence Service
 

Jerome

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Actually wrote an article on this today. Joe Biden Denied Communion: A Question of Faith

There is a group that is trying to get the South Carolina Catholic Bishop to force the priest who denied Biden to apologize. Their justification comes, of course, by cherry-picking verses.

Your own United Methodist denomination failed to discipline former Attorney General Jeff Sessions:

United Methodists are denomination least likely in the US to administer church discipline

"More than 600 clergy and laypeople filed an official complaint against [Sessions] with the UMC....The complaint, which cited 'chargeable offenses' of child abuse, immorality, racial discrimination, and 'dissemination of doctrines contrary to the standards of doctrine of the United Methodist Church,' was quashed over the summer by the district superintendent of the Alabama-West Florida UMC Conference, which oversees Sessions’s home church."

"'A political action is not personal conduct'...read the dismissal, offered in a statement from Bishop David W. Graves, resident bishop of the Alabama-West Florida Conference"

"'No Methodist to my knowledge in history has been ecclesially punished for political views or actions,' Mark Tooley, a Methodist and the president of the Institute of Religion and Democracy, told CT."
 

Reformed1689

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Your own United Methodist denomination failed to discipline former Attorney General Jeff Sessions:

United Methodists are denomination least likely in the US to administer church discipline

"More than 600 clergy and laypeople filed an official complaint against [Sessions] with the UMC....The complaint, which cited 'chargeable offenses' of child abuse, immorality, racial discrimination, and 'dissemination of doctrines contrary to the standards of doctrine of the United Methodist Church,' was quashed over the summer by the district superintendent of the Alabama-West Florida UMC Conference, which oversees Sessions’s home church."

"'A political action is not personal conduct'...read the dismissal, offered in a statement from Bishop David W. Graves, resident bishop of the Alabama-West Florida Conference"

"'No Methodist to my knowledge in history has been ecclesially punished for political views or actions,' Mark Tooley, a Methodist and the president of the Institute of Religion and Democracy, told CT."
While I attend a United Methodist Church, I do not claim to be a United Methodist. Our church is closer to a SBC than Methodist but there are issues with property due to the trust clause. Not really sure why you are even commenting on my church in this thread. If you read anymore of my articles you would know that I in no way support the UMC.

A Letter to the Council of Bishops of the United Methodist Church
 

StefanM

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While I attend a United Methodist Church, I do not claim to be a United Methodist. Our church is closer to a SBC than Methodist but there are issues with property due to the trust clause. Not really sure why you are even commenting on my church in this thread. If you read anymore of my articles you would know that I in no way support the UMC.

A Letter to the Council of Bishops of the United Methodist Church

In the article from the link you provided, you stated "I have not been a member of a United Methodist Church very long." This indicates that you are a member, so would that not make you a United Methodist, at least on some level?

I'm not sure how a UMC congregation could be closer to SBC than Methodist without discarding quite a bit of Wesleyan doctrine, which is definitely far from the reformed Baptist doctrine that you espouse.
 

Reformed1689

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In the article from the link you provided, you stated "I have not been a member of a United Methodist Church very long." This indicates that you are a member, so would that not make you a United Methodist, at least on some level?

I'm not sure how a UMC congregation could be closer to SBC than Methodist without discarding quite a bit of Wesleyan doctrine, which is definitely far from the reformed Baptist doctrine that you espouse.
It's complicated. Are you familiar with the trust clause in the UMC? that's pretty much what keeps our church UMC. Our pastor actually went to Southern Seminary, and I went to Liberty. The UMC pretty much leaves us alone for the most part.
 

StefanM

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It's complicated. Are you familiar with the trust clause in the UMC? that's pretty much what keeps our church UMC. Our pastor actually went to Southern Seminary, and I went to Liberty. The UMC pretty much leaves us alone for the most part.

Your property would revert to the UMC if your church decided to leave the denomination, so that does make matters a bit complicated. It's just more common to hear of an evangelical Methodist/Wesleyan church stuck in that position for wanting to leave the UMC over evangelical/liberal issues, not for substantive theological shifts (i.e., moving away even from evangelical Wesleyan theology--as John Wesley taught it).

Do they let you get away with not paying apportionments? Also, is the pastor a licensed pastor or ordained elder? If an elder, I'd wonder how the bishop handles this for rotations in itinerant ministry--I suppose the bishop could just keep appointing the elder to the same church to avoid further drama.

(I'm curious because I usually hear more about churches with an Asbury Seminary graduate in this kind of situation, but the issue is usually over the UMC failing to believe or to practice what it teaches in the Book of Discipline. I also used to be a Methodist, so I probably have more interest in the subject than the average Baptist.)

I know this is probably a bit off topic, but it does relate to church discipline and its enforcement.
 

Reformed1689

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Do they let you get away with not paying apportionments? Also, is the pastor a licensed pastor or ordained elder? If an elder, I'd wonder how the bishop handles this for rotations in itinerant ministry--I suppose the bishop could just keep appointing the elder to the same church to avoid further drama.
He is a Lay Minister in the UMC so no apportionments/pension responsibilities.
 

Adonia

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I used to be a Eucharistic minister myself, and I also had the power to deny a Biden or a Pelosi Holy Communion. Unfortunately, they never attended Mass at my church.
 
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