John Calvin

[evangelist6589]

Reading a book on the Reformers and one thing I learned about John Calvin was that when his hometown of Noyon France received the news of his death in 1551 the people celebrated and gave God thanks for removing the heretic from their midst. So will people celebrate when you die? I'll bet my critics on this board will celebrate when I die but thats okay. In Calvins case the people had to wait 13 more years since the news of his death was premature. Are you making an impact? I have tried and tried to evangelize the false teachers in my area but all they do is ignore me. Perhaps I need to start name calling them and getting more confrontational. I want to make an impact.

 

[Aaron]

I'll bet my critics on this board will celebrate when I die but thats okay.

Lol.

Actually, I think I'd mourn at the loss of amusement.

 

[David Kent]

Reading a book on the Reformers and one thing I learned about John Calvin was that when his hometown of Noyon France received the news of his death in 1551 the people celebrated and gave God thanks for removing the heretic from their midst. So will people celebrate when you die? I'll bet my critics on this board will celebrate when I die but thats okay. In Calvins case the people had to wait 13 more years since the news of his death was premature. Are you making an impact? I have tried and tried to evangelize the false teachers in my area but all they do is ignore me. Perhaps I need to start name calling them and getting more confrontational. I want to make an impact.

Have you visited Noyon? We have. There is a museum Calvin. It is in the rue Calvin, and other Calvin reminders. They make a lot of Calvin now.

 

[TCassidy]

I'll bet my critics on this board will celebrate when I die but thats okay.

This is going to come as a shock to you but everything is not all about you.

 

[David Kent]

Have you visited Noyon? We have. There is a museum Calvin. It is in the rue Calvin, and other Calvin reminders. They make a lot of Calvin now.

There is also a rue Olivetan in Noyon, the first translator of the bible in French in 1533. Calvin wrote the preface. My wife uses the Ostervald bible which is based on the Olivetan.

 

[agedman]

Wrong thread.

 

[Rippon]

Reading a book on the Reformers and one thing I learned about John Calvin was that when his hometown of Noyon France received the news of his death in 1551

He lived a short life, but not that short. Calvin died on May 27,1564.

the people celebrated and gave God thanks for removing the heretic from their midst.

Since that book on the Reformers was so mistaken about basic Calvin facts I doubt the above. But try to document that please.

 

[Jerome]

the people celebrated and gave God thanks for removing the heretic from their midst.

I doubt the above....document that please.

Did you miss this in the Selderhuis biography of Calvin you've quoted so much?:

Chapter one, first paragraph

"in 1551 the inhabitants held a big celebration when a rumor that Calvin had died reached their ears"

 

[David Kent]

Did you miss this in the Selderhuis biography of Calvin you've quoted so much?:

Chapter one, first paragraph

"in 1551 the inhabitants held a big celebration when a rumor that Calvin had died reached their ears"

But then they were Catholics. The reformation was not popular amongst Catholics, in fact they murdered those of the reformation, when they could.

Even before the reformation they killed every Christian they could find. They often called their wars, crusades.

They demolished Calvin's house. The Calvin Museum, called 'Calvin's House', in Noyon was built after WW1. The site was said to have been discovered by German troops during that war. Still there it is very informative, I bought a book on the Massacre at Vassy and the French wars of religion. It tells how if the Huguenots were caught worshiping any pastors or preachers caught would be broken on the wheel and then hung, a roll of drums played loudly to drown out any last words they may have tried to speak. Any other men would be sentenced to the Galleys for life, and women imprisoned in the Tower of Constance, or other prisons, for life.

When the last prisoners were freed in the late 18th century, one woman aged 52 was sent to the Tower of Constance when she was eight, when she attended a service with her mother. The eldest man released from the Galleys was 82.

 

[JonC]

This is going to come as a shock to you but everything is not all about you.

You must be one of his critics.

 

[David Kent]

About 20 miles from here there is a village called Sarre which was founded by Huguenots it still shows that in its village sign.

 

[David Kent]

 

[TCassidy]

About 20 miles from here there is a village called Sarre which was founded by Huguenots it still shows that in its village sign.

My mother's family (she was French) were Huguenots and fled France in 1775. They went first to England then to the US in 1825.

Upon settling in the wild west (Ohio) they staked out a farm and joined a local Lutheran church as there were no Huguenots in that area of Ohio. Every succeeding generation has produced ministers of the Gospel, including me.

 

[evangelist6589]

He lived a short life, but not that short. Calvin died on May 27,1564.

Since that book on the Reformers was so mistaken about basic Calvin facts I doubt the above. But try to document that please.

If you READ my entire post you would have seen that I stated that Calvin died 13 years after.

 

[David Kent]

My mother's family (she was French) were Huguenots and fled France in 1775. They went first to England then to the US in 1825.

Upon settling in the wild west (Ohio) they staked out a farm and joined a local Lutheran church as there were no Huguenots in that area of Ohio. Every succeeding generation has produced ministers of the Gospel, including me.

Our former pastor was a book collector and Bible Historian. When he heard I was going to France for a few weeks holiday he loaned me two books. One was Memoires of a Huguenot family. and the other I can't remember. I think it was a visit to the French Alps of the Waldensians. The first book was very interesting. The original author who escaped to England said that his father and grandfather were Huguenot pastors. When he arrived in England he came to the west country and was so successful in business, the other traders in the town were jealous and considered him a foreign interloper. We were at war with France at that time.

After the same happened in another town he moved to the west coast of Ireland, and as the French were often making raids with the approval of the Irish. He offered to fortify the area at his own expense. Eventually a French raiding party took him captive and landed him at le Havre. The English didn't take kindly to that and as they had a large number of French POWs they took action. French officers were allowed a certain amount of freedom, some even married while they were here. As a result of the Irish incident there were restrictions on French officers, I can't remember the details now but they were either put in prison, or in chains. The families of the French officers were not pleased and protested to their govt, and the Huguenot was returned. This was in his words, subject to my memory. His son and then his grandson took over the story and described crossing the Atlantic, I think to Canada, but it may have been USA.

It is possible that I may be able to borrow the book again to refresh my memory, but he did leave our church in a climate of disagreement.

 

[Reynolds]

Reading a book on the Reformers and one thing I learned about John Calvin was that when his hometown of Noyon France received the news of his death in 1551 the people celebrated and gave God thanks for removing the heretic from their midst. So will people celebrate when you die? I'll bet my critics on this board will celebrate when I die but thats okay. In Calvins case the people had to wait 13 more years since the news of his death was premature. Are you making an impact? I have tried and tried to evangelize the false teachers in my area but all they do is ignore me. Perhaps I need to start name calling them and getting more confrontational. I want to make an impact.

Unless you post on here and tell me you died, I won't know.