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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Gina B, Dec 29, 2005.

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  1. Gina B

    Gina B Active Member

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    John's Story: Click Here

    He has 30 days, from yesterday, to appeal the order to leave the United States.

    The man is 85 years old. The attempts to prove him guilty began so long ago, it seems rather silly to keep it up now.

    I understand the horror of the crimes he's accused of. However, my feeling is that there's been enough hatred to last more than a lifetime, and certainly, killing him now when he's only got a few years left to live anyhow seems purposeless, he's obviously not been a threat to anyone for a long time. It's about time for him to go and be judged of God anyhow, so why not just let it be?
     
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  2. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Because he is a Nazi Murderer and justice should be served no matter how old he is. His age did not somehow erase what he did, and he should pay the price for it?

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #2 Joseph_Botwinick, Dec 29, 2005
  3. Gina B

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    How's that paying the price for it?

    He's already lived years past life expectancy for a male.

    Where's the justice in having let him live a long, happy and free life? But they did. Now killing him when he's already got one foot in the grave is supposed to be justice for horrors beyond description committed when he was a young man?

    Just doesn't make no common sense to me.

    BTW did you hear about the guy on death row who overdosed on pain pills the day he was sentenced to die? They took him to the hospital, revived him, took him back to the jail and carried out the death sentence. :eek:
     
    #3 Gina B, Dec 29, 2005
  4. Joseph_Botwinick

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    1. It may not be the best justice...but it is the best we can do now.

    2. I am totally in favor of waiting till he dies, shocking him with the defib, and then stick the needle in him. [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #4 Joseph_Botwinick, Dec 29, 2005
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    Gina, you raise a good point but I can't help but doubt that he showed any mercy to elderly Jews before he assisted in their murder (I must confess to ignorance to exactly what his role was, though).
     
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    I certainly have no sympathy for anyone rightly convicted as being a holocaust murderer, or of being a camp guard. However, READ the WHOLE article--there remain many questions.

    "John" is currently not being sentenced to anything other than a return to the Ukraine, and the article leaves in doubt the real issues of who he was and what he did. The Israeli Supreme Court invalidated his earlier conviction, which makes me wonder what the truth really is.
     
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    Thanks, Major. You're right, I had not read the article. My point was only on the assumption, without basis, that he is guilty. Now that you mention it, I recall that the Israeli Supreme Court overturned his conviction.
     
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  8. Gina B

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    Oh, ok. Then it's REALLY dumb and pointless!
     
    #8 Gina B, Dec 30, 2005
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    I agree with your arguement Gina. Taking his life now, with inclusive evidence would be problimatical politically and wrong morally.
    THis is a perfect case for leaving to God the final justice solution.
     
    #9 hillclimber, Jan 1, 2006
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    Of course, it appears this whole conversation is irrelevant since the USA is seeking to deport him, not execute him.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #10 Joseph_Botwinick, Jan 1, 2006
  11. hillclimber

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    That must disturb you Joseph.
     
    #11 hillclimber, Jan 1, 2006
  12. Joseph_Botwinick

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    No. It doesn't disturb me. If the courts overturned the conviction due to lack of evidence, then I am ok with that. I was wrong about my original judgment as I did not read the whole article before making my first statement.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #12 Joseph_Botwinick, Jan 1, 2006
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