John R. Rice College?

[Jerome]

John R. Rice College

 

[Tom Bryant]

John R. Rice College

I'd like to hear John of Japan's take on it. I'm not sure that Dr. Rice was a textus Receptus, KJV guy.

 

[John of Japan]

John R. Rice College

Hmm, that's a new wrinkle. They didn't ask my permission for this!

Years ago in the '70s and '80s there was a John R. Rice Baptist Academy in Michigan under a church. The pastor was a friend and they supported us. I still have a jersey from there somewhere.

 

[John of Japan]

I'd like to hear John of Japan's take on it. I'm not sure that Dr. Rice was a textus Receptus, KJV guy.

Though JRR preached exclusively from the KJV, he studied from the ASV and referred often to the Greek. The KJVO guys back in the day didn't like him. I have a pamphlet from 1976 by Herbert Evans, Dear Dr. John: Where is my bible? (sic).

Ironically, in spite of his brilliance he never did study anything about textual criticism (had no books on it in his huge library, which I once arranged), and got things a little mixed up on the subject in his magnum opus on inspiration, Our God-Breathed Book, the Bible.

 

[John of Japan]

Well shucks, folks, looks like it is now being called a scam: http://www.titusvilleherald.com/articles/2013/09/05/news/doc5227ff3b7635d103819879.txt

 

[Tom Bryant]

Though JRR preached exclusively from the KJV, he studied from the ASV and referred often to the Greek. The KJVO guys back in the day didn't like him. I have a pamphlet from 1976 by Herbert Evans, Dear Dr. John: Where is my bible? (sic).

Ironically, in spite of his brilliance he never did study anything about textual criticism (had no books on it in his huge library, which I once arranged), and got things a little mixed up on the subject in his magnum opus on inspiration, Our God-Breathed Book, the Bible.

I didn't remember him as KJVO.

One of the things I liked about him was that he had a passion for soul winning and revival and kept that on the forefront. It seemed to me that the other issues he took a stand on like inerrancy, was not just because of the importance of inerrancy, but also because of what an errant Bible would do to revival and soul winning... or am i off base?

 

[Tom Bryant]

Well shucks, folks, looks like it is now being called a scam: http://www.titusvilleherald.com/articles/2013/09/05/news/doc5227ff3b7635d103819879.txt

I guess that means no royalties for you for the use of the name? :tongue3:

 

[Jerome]

Well shucks, folks, looks like it is now being called a scam: http://www.titusvilleherald.com/articles/2013/09/05/news/doc5227ff3b7635d103819879.txt

In an Aug. 26 phone call made to obtain further information about Carnrike's background and the school, Carnrike said that students are "going to get John R. Rice diplomas. Churches have the freedom to grant ministerial degrees to be used within the framework of the church."

Carnrike had begun attending Community Bible Church, which is led by Babcock.

"He's gone now. He was missing for several days. They (the family) discovered him living back in Alabama."

Carnrike appears to have left the area shortly after an Aug. 27 disturbance at his sister's Titusville home, where he had been living. The incident required the assistance of the Titusville Police Department.

Babcock said one of Carnrike's family members told him that Carnrike was "throwing stuff at the house. He threw a big pot at his sister. He was just running in and out of the house, shouting."

:null::null:

 

[John of Japan]

I guess that means no royalties for you for the use of the name? :tongue3:

Shucks! We could use the support. So I was planning my letter to the guy for a piece of the action.

 

[John of Japan]

I didn't remember him as KJVO.

One of the things I liked about him was that he had a passion for soul winning and revival and kept that on the forefront. It seemed to me that the other issues he took a stand on like inerrancy, was not just because of the importance of inerrancy, but also because of what an errant Bible would do to revival and soul winning... or am i off base?

He certainly did put revival and soul-winning first--believe it was the first duty of every Christian. And he himself lived what he preached. I remember him in his last year, sitting in a wheel chair at church in Murfreesboro, TN, looking around for someone to witness to during the invitation.

I'm not sure how much he predicated his stand for an inerrant Bible on its importance for revival and evangelism per se, but I'm sure that entered his thoughts. Having said that, here is the opening paragraph of the "Author's Foreword" of his book on inspiration:

"The authenticity an authority of a God-inspired Bible is the very foundation of Christianity. Even if it should be admitted that Christ is deity, we have no certain way of knowing the truth about Christ, about the way of salvation, no assurance of Heaven and eternity, no sweet promises, no way to know Christian duty, to grow Christian character, or preach the Christian Gospel, without an inspired Bible" (Our God-Breathed Book, the Bible, p. 7).

 

[Dr. Bob]

John R was not an "only" (as evidenced in his writing and sermons). The one thing he did that was positive was to "keep Hyles in check" so that he did not go off-the-deep-end. They were close friends, worked together, and had a great impact on fundamentalism.

Sadly, when John R passed, Hyles (and his kawledge) did to off to extremes.

Guess if you have a "Hyles" college, why not a "John R Rice" college? :BangHead:

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Have I ever mentioned how much I dislike Christian schools named after men? Especially living men?

Totally not to topic, so carry on :saint:

 

[John of Japan]

John R was not an "only" (as evidenced in his writing and sermons). The one thing he did that was positive was to "keep Hyles in check" so that he did not go off-the-deep-end. They were close friends, worked together, and had a great impact on fundamentalism.

Only one thing positive?

But yes, I've had many tell me they thought JRR kept JH from radicalism, and I agree.

Sadly, when John R passed, Hyles (and his kawledge) did to off to extremes.

Guess if you have a "Hyles" college, why not a "John R Rice" college? :BangHead:

No thanks. I'm with C4K--don't like to see a school named after a man.

 

[John of Japan]

Have I ever mentioned how much I dislike Christian schools named after men? Especially living men?

Totally not to topic, so carry on :saint:

I agree--especially while they're living.

 

[Salty]

... I'm with C4K--don't like to see a school named after a man.

So you all would be opposed to a Salty College? :tear::tear:

 

[John of Japan]

So you all would be opposed to a Salty College? :tear::tear:

It depends. Will you give me an honorary doctorate if I back your new school? :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Salty]

It depends. Will you give me an honorary doctorate if I back your new school? :smilewinkgrin:

Of course!

 

[North Carolina Tentmaker]

So you all would be opposed to a Salty College? :tear::tear:

The Salty Institute of Biblical Studies sounds so much better, and SIBS has a nice ring to it.