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Justice will be served but not soon enough.

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Daniel David, Dec 14, 2004.

  1. Daniel David

    Daniel David New Member

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    Scott Peterson will be injected with poison to rid his miserable existence from the world. In spite of the trial being in California, justice will be served. So, I thought we could put together some nice haiku about him:

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    Scott will be in jail

    he will not be missed

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    Frey was not worth it

    Lacy and Connor are dead

    Scott will pay dearly

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    Scott's life will be short

    but still more than Connor's was

    Say hi to Satan

    [ December 14, 2004, 07:19 PM: Message edited by: Dr. Bob ]
     
  2. Gina B

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    Hell's never a joke
    And it's possibility
    No cause to rejoice
     
  3. Daniel David

    Daniel David New Member

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    Justice will reign soon

    I prefer a good roping

    Poison not enough
     
  4. blackbird

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    If the dude goes to hell, Daniel David---it won't be because he murdered---it will be because of his rejection of Jesus Christ as personal savior and Lord---you know that as well as I

    I know men on Death Row---murdered somebody--but who later---repented of sins and received Jesus as Savior and Lord.

    What the dude did was sorry---and yes, he will receive justice by men---but let us always be careful of condemning a person to Hell. Now, I am just as happy as you are for the sentence he received---but---reserve that happiness to the physical realm---and am sad for his eternal state without Jesus Christ!

    Blackbird
     
  5. Bible Student

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    Blackbird, I agree with you. What he did was really bad, but sin is sin and in God's eyes sone of the things we do are bad as well. We need to pray for Him to realize his need for Christ.

    Richard
     
  6. Circuitrider

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    Just remember that with the frequency that California executes those on death row, Scott Peterson is essentially getting a life sentence.
     
  7. Gina B

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    How do you know for sure he's guilty? I've seen the law and investigators slant evidence and ignore witnesses waaayyy to often to believe much of anything as it's presented!
    To glory in the punishment of a supposed guilty one and not even offer a hint of prayer for his parents and especially the parents and family of the victims is a very sad statement.
    Gina
     
  8. Jimmy C

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    You beat me to the punch Circutrider

    I cannot remember the last time Califonia executed anyone, or how many they currently have on death row - but when and if they ever get to Peterson he will be an old man.

    I did not keep up with the trial much, but from what I have read most if not all of the evidence is circumstantial. I dont much have a problem with his being found guily using circumstantial evidence, but sentencing someone to death based on circumstantial evidence does not sit well.

    That said - if I were the murdered persons dad, I might just speed things up a bit and just get out the trusty 12 guage - fair warning to my future sons in law - who ever you may be!
     
  9. robycop3

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    Cal aint called the "Left Coast" for nothing.

    And I agree 200% that coming to Christ does NOT excuse one from paying MAN'S penalties for CRIMES. JESUS, however, takes care of the SINS associated with the crimes, as well as the other sins.
     
  10. Heide

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    I just feel sorry for him..I hope that his wife Was saved..I hope that he asks christ in his heart..I can tell you that if he does and his wife is not saved..How bad hes going to feel that hes in heaven and his wife is in hell if she did not trust christ. That there in my eyes is the worse punishment anyone would have to face.

    The only thing we can do is pray for them all.
     
  11. donnA

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    I'm sorry, but is this appropriate on a christian board?

    [ December 14, 2004, 09:38 PM: Message edited by: Dr. Bob ]
     
  12. Johnv

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    I don't think the comments of the OP are appropriate for Christian thought.
     
  13. Scott J

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    I don't like the death sentence for circumstantial cases. He's probably guilty but I don't think the case is nearly that strong.
     
  14. Johnv

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    We don't know "for sure" if he's guilty. We know "beyond any reasonable doubt" that he's guilty. In addition, California law requires that all death penalty cases are reviewed by the state supreme court, thus insuring that any death sentence upheld is a just sentence. In effect, the an upheld death penalty conviction is slightly higher than "beyond any reasonable doubt".

    Also, since evidence in such cases is often produced after the conviction, most death penalty inmates will file at least one "habeus corpus" appeal, requesting the court to review new evidence.

    The death penalty was reinstated in CA in 1977. There are currently 612 people on California's death row, a good many of them sentenced in the last 10 or so years. The last execution was in 2002. The average time it takes from conviction to the sentence being carried out is 16 years. During that time, an inmate in San Quentin's death row will be in perpetual lockdown. In other words, you're solitary in your cell 24/7, except for brief shower and yard times.

    I believe there are two anticipated executions in 2005.
    The death penalty in CA requires the existence of a special circumstance. In this case, the special circumstance was the death of the unborn child.

    Yes, this case had a lot of circumstancial evidence, but the evidence was copious. There was nothing in the presented evidence that suggested anything other than Scott committing the crime.
     
  15. Marcia

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    You can't know all the evidence unless you were on the jury or sat through the trial every day. What we hear about on the news or read in the paper is just tiny bits or summaries of stuff.

    I used to read and summarize murder trial transcripts for a living as a paralagel and most people don't know the half of what is presented. Juries generally are not thrilled about sentencing anyone to death, and the evidence has to be really strong to even ask for the death penalty, so the evidence must have been quite strong.

    Also, contrary to what a lot of people believe, circumstantial evidence is the best evidence there is. Eyewitness testimony is usually dubious and sketchy (in most cases) and falls apart in court, and confessions can be challenged numerous ways in court.

    I do think people who are concerned should pray for Scott Peterson to come to know Christ before his execution, or before his possible death in prison.
     
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    The fact Scott may spend up to 16 years in prison, at tax payers' expence, before sentence is carried out illustrates the problem quite well.
    Convicted killers should not be allowed to live more than thirty days after conviction. They should be given the services of a pastor during those thirty days if they wish and then stretch their necks. And do it semi-publically, in the yard of the prison with all other inmates present.

    This concept, I can assure you, will go a long way towards reducing recidivism. And it sends the strongest message possible to they who typically heed it least.
    That message is;
    WE ARE SICK AND TIRED OF BEING TERRORIZED BY THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT IN THIS COUNTRY AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE.

    In His service;
    Jim
     
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    God takes no pleasure in the destruction of the wicked. Go thou and do likewise.
     
  18. Gina B

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    I agree with the concept Jim. There isn't a whole lotta fear for a whole lotta criminals, and that needs to be reinstated!
    I'm also for the death penalty for repeat sex offenders and child molesters.
    Gina
     
  19. Johnv

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    On the contrary. It shows that the justice system doesn't curtail or abbreviate itself for those who receive a death sentence.

    And what of their appeal? Are they, then, to be denied the same appeals process given to any non-death sentence conviction?
     
  20. StraightAndNarrow

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    Let's execute him before he finds Jesus. Then he will spend all eternity in HELL. Right?
     
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