King James Version Only organised by a Freemason Sect

Can you provide some more info, ie. who is Moriel Ministries, where they said this, etc. Thanks.

 

Oh puh-leeze!!!

 

All doctrines must be checked against scripture, regardless of where people "perceive" they came from.

If it is biblical..keep it.

If not..chunk it.

-kman

 

That theory is just silly; the Freemasons were too busy plotting Lincoln's assasination and hiding alien technology to start the KJVO movement

Actually, the freemason movement is proudly theistic, not Christian, and do not accept any version of the Bible as the inerrant Word of God. Given that, I doubt they have a translation preference.

Eric

 

MAybe someone can expound on this, but Order of Freemasonery that exists today was not around during the time that the KJV was written.

 

LOL!!!!!!

Perhaps we should cut open Possel Ruckman's head after he dies and we will find little aliens running out of his head!

[ October 11, 2002, 09:59 PM: Message edited by: LRL71 ]

 

What Granny Gumbo said...exactly!

 

I'm not KJVO but I think it's a bit ridiculous to call them a cult, and your claim that they are trying to split up churches is pretty silly too. They just believe that King James is th only Bible, because it's been around for hundreds of years and other translations haven't. There's no vast international conspiracy and no malice involved. If you disagree with them on the issue (as I do), then make points about the issue, not ad hominum attacks on their character.

Eric

 

Thank you, Bro.Eric...you sure do seem to be wise & level-headed for someone who appears to be so young!

I love & use the KJBible because I believe & trust it.

 

This "belief and trust" are both subjective. What is lacking is objectivity. Everyone thinks that what they believe is true; it does not make it so. Your preception is fine for you, but where are the irrefutable facts to back up this belief and make it universal to all English speakers? They do not exist, therefore, it is all based on falsehood.

Sorry, but, as you might put it, "This ole dog just won't hunt." (facts stated southern style)

 

Well, I'm so sorry, Terry Herrington, that you got yo'self a huntin' dog that is a no good rascal.

Now what/who I believe and trust is inborn in me by my Saviour who has never led me astray in all these nearly 50yrs and do you, my fine southern friend, think it really matters what you have to say about it?

The KJBible is both perfect and trustworthy...and that dog does hunt! "sic'em, boy!"

 

I'm not KJVO but I think it's a bit ridiculous to call them a cult, and your claim that they are trying to split up churches is pretty silly too. They just believe that King James is th only Bible, because it's been around for hundreds of years and other translations haven't. There's no vast international conspiracy and no malice involved. If you disagree with them on the issue (as I do), then make points about the issue, not ad hominum attacks on their character.

Eric</font>[/QUOTE]eric_b has a great point here. Largely, those who advocate KJV-onlyism do so to 'defend' the Bible. Although ignorant (not to be taken in a deraguatory manner, but rather as being uninformed/uneducated about the facts) of Bible doctrines and textual criticism, KJV-onlyists defend the Bible as they only know how without any good knowledge of Greek, Hebrew, and textual criticism. Most KJV-onlyists are not intentionally divisive per se, but rather they are at best misguided. I'd say that their hearts are in the right place, but their heads aren't. I don't think that any of the KJV-onlyists here wish to divide believers intentionally, but their adherence to KJV-onlyism does cause problems! Eric_b is correct that we shouldn't attack a person, but rather their false beliefs. Is KJV-onlyism heresy? Yes, I believe it is, but those who hold to it are not necessarily 'heretics'.

 

The KJV bible is not without error. There is as many errors in this translation as in the NIV or the NASB or the NKJV. The problem is that many KJVonlyists are not able to face the truth. God perserved His Word in the many manuscripts available. He did not perserve it in any one translation.

 

Then why do you reckon so many folks tend to make such a big deal over the few of us who do believe we have a perfect copy of God's Word?
...Go ahead, chase them rabbits.

 

Gumbo, the "big deal" is already made. It's there because the KJVO side makes up the aggressors in this fray. The point of the gospel is not translations of the Word. But any church I am aware of that takes a KJVO position is going to have a "statement of faith" or some such thing that says a facsimile of: "We use and accept the King James Bible only, as it is the only true Word of God." I don't know what they would try to do if they called on someone to read scripture and he reads it from an obviously non-KJV. Maybe I will go to one those churches and try that some time to find out.

Biut the point for message boards is that KJVO's will directly attack those who do not accept their man-made doctrine, and that is the reason this is a popular forum. On other boards, they often title their boards "KJV [something or other]" and then you can discuss almost anything there except the KJVO issue! Imagine if there is a New York Yankees board in which you can discuss anything except the pros and cons of the Yankees.

Now, how about a clear specific question in regard to this perfect Word... Do you hate your parents or children or spouse? Luke 14:26 (KJV) says you cannot be His disciple if you do not. Is the KJV rendering pefect and preserved for the English-speaking people or does it mean anything less than the "perfect" wording denotes?

 

Hi Cy! What is that noise I hear??? Oh, I know what it is...New York Yankees?!! ...foul ball!

My dear parents are dead & my daddy was an alcoholic, nor did they go to church; but it didn't stop me from serving Christ. I didn't hate them in the sense of disliking them, because the Bible instructs us otherwise-Rom12:10.

I think that verse in Luke simply means that our love for our Saviour is to be much more than our love for anyone or anything else.

I'm not one to argue Scripture & I don't claim to know all there is...but I think if a conflict exists between the will of God and the will of a loved one, God's Will should win everytime!

Even tho' my husband is my head(& I know he'd never do this), if he told me I couldn't serve God anymore, I'd have to respectively disobey him about that & follow Jesus.

We've had family members disown us for our stand, but that don't mean I don't love them...I just love the Lord more!