KJVO claims disproven by the AV 1611/KJV itself

I think the fact that so many hate the KJV so much proves that it is the word of God. But lets look at your thesis and see if you get to graduate.

First of all, psalm 12:7 is not the only reason we believe the KJV is the preserved word of God. Second, the AV translators may not have been privy to God's plan. That is why they made their notes in the margin. God is able to override man's plans, He is able to use men without their knowledge.

I would like to know who you think that verse is talking about, if it is not talking about Satan? If your objection is to the interpretation of the word Lucifer as a name for Satan, maybe you are correct, but we know who it is not talking about:
Isaiah 14:13-15
[13] For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
[14] I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
[15] Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

It isn't Jesus. This, however, is Jesus:

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

While this is used often times to show the difference between the KJV and 'less accurate' translations, I surely don't see how you could think this was a proof against the KJV. If it is merely a transliteration, why that should make it MORE accurate than a mere translation, which could hardly be considered the word of God by your standard.

If the observance is the passover, the observance of the facts should have shown you that the word easter was considered interchangeable with passover. In light of the fact that the word Passover had to be invented because there was no English equivalent, I don't see how you can point fingers.

'Mr Roby, now that you have thrown down the KJV argument single-handedly and shown the superiority of modern man's choose your own doctrine bible picking philosophy, what are you going to do next?'


'I'm going to Disney World!'

 

Watch your calender, you certainly don't want to go on "gay appreciation day".

 

I think the fact that so many hate the KJV so much proves that it is the word of God. But lets look at your thesis and see if you get to graduate.

Um who hates the KJV? I'm sure that those who hate the KJV hate MV's also.

To prove an error in the KJV is not the hate the KJV. Let's not play that old baseless KJVO game James. I think that you can do better than that my brother.

Speaking of hate how many MV' user call the KJV satanic and perverted? Hum? How many lies have been told about the NASB, NIV, and NKJV by the KJVO Camp James?

If you want to play that game we can play it. I can find more slander against MV's than the KJV.

First of all, psalm 12:7 is not the only reason we believe the KJV is the preserved word of God. Second, the AV translators may not have been privy to God's plan. That is why they made their notes in the margin. God is able to override man's plans, He is able to use men without their knowledge.

Proof please! There’s that proof request again!

So the KJV was part of God's plan and Psalm 12:7 was unique only to the KJV. So I guess that God did not keep His word since no other bible matches the KJV word for word.

Amazing that God could not inspire the translators of the 1611KJV. The translators must have been bible correctors! YIKES!!!!!

If the observance is the passover, the observance of the facts should have shown you that the word easter was considered interchangeable with passover. In light of the fact that the word Passover had to be invented because there was no English equivalent, I don't see how you can point fingers.

But what did it mean when Acts was written James?

Clearly it was not Easter.

Passover provides us with what was meant in that day.

What has more authority the Greek/Hebrew/Aramaic or the KJV?

The bottom line is that you and your fellow KJVOist can not answer Roby’s questions using facts. You can not run to the AV1611 because the AV1611 destroys your myths. You are forced to engage in guess work and depend on distortions in order to defend your myth.

Prove me wrong and explain why the AV1611KJV does not support the KJVO myth.

Why did the AV1611 translators used marginal notes to show alternate readings?

It’s amazing that KJVOist must attack the AV1611 itself in order to defend a myth created by a SDA and pushed forward by two dishonest Baptist.

Then again without double standards and blind-eye tactics what does KJVOism have anyway outside of distortions and all out lies?

 

The biggest problem for KJVOist is the Message to the Reader found in the AV1611. It destroys the KJVO myth.

Observe the spinning that our KJVO brothers will do in order to discredit the AV1611.

 

Well, no one here hates the KJV.

If you mean hated by the supporters of the MVs here at the BB, the fact is that the KJVO have come from afar with rants, raves and tantrums invading the BB and other sites which support the modern English translations.

The fact also is that many of these KJVO folks are the ones who have expressed hatred for the Word of God calling the MVs "corrupt" and or "satanic counterfeits".

All we have done is to show them that the KJV fails many if not not all the criteria by which they condemn the modern versions.

It is they that hate us and have come calling our Bibles by these "satanic" names.

They or you ought not be surprised when they run off with their tails between their legs.

If they want Christian love and fellowship let them stop calling our Bibles "satanic counterfeits" and "corrupt" or else quit whinning when they are treated in like kind.

HankD

 

Genesis I.4 (KJV1611):

And God saw the light, taht is was
good: and God diuided + the light from
the darknesse.

Side note: +Hebr. betweene the light
and betweene the darknesse.

This means there is a variation in the sources
available to the Translators of the KJV
That variation in the sources blows KJVO5
out of the water. That variation in the
source destroys KJVO4.

The variation n sources meanst that KJVO#3 is
invalid (it should read "I beleive in the
received texts only)

This one margin note (the first one in the Bible)
makes only KJVO#1 and KJVO#2 the only valid KJVO
stances.

 

^^^

Thank you Ed!

Whether or not one adheres to KJVO#1 or #2, one does not say that his/her KJV is the 'only' Bible out there. To say one likes and prefers the KJV is just stating one's own preference.

We can all discuss the variants in the text of the Bible without denouncing that version or that Greek NT.

And, there is no one here who hates the KJV. We who expose the errors of KJV-onlyism hate false doctrine and errors of that movement.

 

First, I have never met someone who "hates the KJV". (I have met some who hate God's word in any version, including the KJV, though).

Second, if hating the KJV proves it is God's work, what does hating the Catholic Chruch prove? Or hating Osama bin Laden? Or hating liver and onions?

Personally, I believe verse 4 - the king of Babylon, and comparing him to Venus the morning star, one of the Babylonian deities.

 

Are you saying that Tyndale is wrong?

 

By that logic every MV = modern
version, must be the written word of God cause
there are so many KJVO-persons that
hate them mvs.

 

I can't remember one person even hinting at what you claim. Give us just one quote from anyone in the past year or more who makes such claims as you suggest.

 

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Well at least we have moved up a notch.
It used to be we are he***ics or worse.
Now at least we are brothers!

In HIS service;
Jim

 

Jim,
I resent your remark about me. When have a called anyone on this board a heretic? I called Ruckman a heretic because of his views.

Now please stick to the topic.

Thanks

 

DavidJ;
I am sorry. I used your quote for the benefit of others who HAVE called me a Heretic for my views.
I was actually thankful that you DID call me a brother.

I am truly sorry for the misunderstanding.

In HIS service;
Jim

 

According to scripture Ruckman is a non-believer.

 

Gb;
That is baloney!!!

No, it is that stuff used to make plants grow real big.

In HIS service;
jim

 

You know what scripture teaches about those who sow discord and cause division. Ruckman has killed a lot of plants with the stuff.