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Leader of group cited in Roof ‘manifesto’ donated to top Republicans

Zaac

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Leader of group cited in Roof ‘manifesto’ donated to top Republicans — including Cruz, Paul and Santorum

The leader of a rightwing group that Dylann Roof allegedly credits with helping to radicalise him against black people before the Charleston church massacre has donated tens of thousands of dollars to Republicans such as presidential candidates Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Rick Santorum.

Earl Holt has given $65,000 to Republican campaign funds in recent years while inflammatory remarks – including that black people were “the laziest, stupidest and most criminally-inclined race in the history of the world” – were posted online in his name.

After being approached by the Guardian on Sunday, Cruz’s presidential campaign said it would be returning all money the senator had received from Holt.

Holt, 62, is the president of the Council of Conservative Citizens (CofCC), a Missouri-based activist organization praised as enlightening by the author of a manifesto-style text that was posted on a website registered in Roof’s name along with photographs of the gunman. The FBI said on Saturday it was investigating the website.

The manifesto’s author, who has been widely reported but not verified as Roof, recounted learning about “brutal black on white murders” from the CofCC website .

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/lea...republicans-including-cruz-paul-and-santorum/

Yep, he was bred by the Republican Right as it continues to spew the same old stereotypes.
 

padredurand

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Yep, he was bred by the Republican Right as it continues to spew the same old stereotypes.

You could have titled your thread "Cruz returns donation given by hate monger" and it would have been equally true. It would not have served your purpose but it would still be true.
 

Zaac

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You could have titled your thread "Cruz returns donation given by hate monger" and it would have been equally true. It would not have served your purpose but it would still be true.

You looking for a fight today or something? Check your own heart. I titled the thread, as I have close to 100% of the time, after what the AUTHOR of the article titled it.

So what's YOUR purpose?
 

poncho

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You could have titled your thread "Cruz returns donation given by hate monger" and it would have been equally true. It would not have served your purpose but it would still be true.

Bullseye! :applause:

Paul’s campaign said it will donate the $1,750 it received from Earl P. Holt III, the president of the St. Louis-based Council of Conservative Citizens, to the Mother Emanuel Hope Fund.

Democrats and other liberals will use the donation to insinuate Paul harbors racist sentiments.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/establishment-media-links-rand-paul-to-white-supremacy-group.html

Seems like the old "guilt by association" fallacy is as popular as ever on Baptist Board.
 
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Crabtownboy

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You could have titled your thread "Cruz returns donation given by hate monger" and it would have been equally true. It would not have served your purpose but it would still be true.

He returned it only after it was exposed that he had received their donation. It does not say he refused it when it was first offered.

Regardless, what is it about Cruz that would attract money from such an organization?
 

poncho

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He returned it only after it was exposed that he had received their donation. It does not say he refused it when it was first offered.

Regardless, what is it about Cruz that would attract money from such an organization?

What is it about the organization that would give money to republican candidates?

Makes me wonder if the "Council of Conservative Citizens" is working for the DNC and Media Matters.
 

poncho

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Lol, ah poncho, spoken like a true blue conspiracy theorist.... :)

That used to be known as asking the obvious questions. :smilewinkgrin:

Seems mighty convenient that a "white supremacist" group would be giving money to republican candidates just when the "libbies" race baiting campaign is starting to get stale.
 
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Zaac

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He returned it only after it was exposed that he had received their donation. It does not say he refused it when it was first offered.

Regardless, what is it about Cruz that would attract money from such an organization?

Good question CTB. Birds of a feather...
But I removed him from even possible consideration when I found out he's in the pocket of billionaire hedge fund CEO, Robert Mercer.

Meet Ted Cruz’s Tax-Dodging Sugar Daddy
Cruz rails against ‘crony capitalism’—and counts a CEO under investigation for unpaid billions in taxes as a mega-donor. Awwwwwkward.

Hedge fund CEO Robert Mercer is all in for the conservative Texas Republican Ted Cruz, and the billionaire will have unusually substantial influence in how his contributions get spent.

But the billionaire also has some baggage—like, the avoiding billions in taxes kind of baggage.

His alleged failure to pay those taxes led to substantial congressional scrutiny in 2014—and it’s not clear the investigation is over.

This, and some of Mercer’s side projects, could present interesting challenges for Cruz’s campaign. Especially since Cruz has been a vocal opponent of those who “give favors to Wall Street” and engage in “crony capitalism.”

On the one hand, Mercer’s support is fantastic for Cruz for all the obvious reasons (having a billionaire in your corner is nice). On the other hand, Mercer’s hedge fund—Renaissance Technologies—recently faced an unflattering congressional investigation, the results of which indicated that it used complex and unorthodox financial structures to dramatically lower its tax burden.This drew scorching bipartisan criticism from investigators on the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations.

“Renaissance profited from this tax treatment by insisting on the fiction that it didn’t really own the stocks it traded—that the banks that Renaissance dealt with, did,” said Sen. John McCain during a hearing on the issue, per Mother Jones. “But, the fact is that Renaissance did all the trading, maintained full control over the account…and reaped all of the profits.”

In his opening statement for that hearing, then-subcommittee chair Sen. Carl Levin, a Michigan Democrat, said that Mercer’s business avoided paying more than $6 billion in taxes between 2000 and 2013.

Since then, Levin has retired from the Senate and Republican Sen. Rob Portman has taken his place as subcommittee chair. When I called the subcommittee’s Capitol Hill office to see if any investigation into Renaissance was still underway, the person who answered the phone said he couldn’t comment on active investigations. I then asked if that meant the investigation was in fact active.

“I can’t say whether it’s active, I can’t say whether it’s inactive, I can’t even say whether we’ve investigated them,” he said.

Later, Portman’s spokeswoman, Caitlin Conant, emailed to say that the committee doesn’t comment on its work beyond what’s in the public record. Renaissance Technologies didn’t respond to a request for comment on whether they’re currently being investigated.

Given this probe into his company’s books, it’s no surprise Mercer has invested heavily in keeping financial industry watchdogs from gaining political power. However, you’d think this might conflict with his candidate’s populist zeal.

“[M]y criticism with Washington is they engage in crony capitalism,” Cruz told Bloomberg Politics. “They give favors to Wall Street and big business and that’s why I’ve been an outspoken opponent of crony capitalism, taking on leaders in both parties.”

But the Cruz campaign doesn’t seem to see any problems with the arrangement. When I asked Rick Tyler, the campaign’s senior communications adviser, if he was worried about potential conflicts, he said, “No way.”

Mercer has long backed conservative candidates, and he’s spending heavily on Cruz through a new breed of super PACs started by the super rich.

An anonymous Cruz source told Bloomberg on Wednesday that a franchise of pro-Cruz super PACs—formed just this week—will have raised $31 million by end of the day on Friday. There are four super PACs, called Keep the Promise, Keep the Promise I, Keep the Promise II, and Keep the Promise III.

This is not normal; presidential candidates usually give their imprimatur to one such group, which then rakes in contributions and makes independent expenditures to help the candidate. After all, there are legal limits on how much donors can give to presidential candidates, but no limits on how much they can give to these PACs.

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/04/10/meet-ted-cruz-s-tax-dodging-sugar-daddy.html
 

padredurand

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You looking for a fight today or something? Check your own heart. I titled the thread, as I have close to 100% of the time, after what the AUTHOR of the article titled it.

So what's YOUR purpose?

Just asking a legitimate question.
 

poncho

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Just asking a legitimate question.

C'mon you've been around here long enough to know legitimate questions aren't allowed.

This is the politics forum man get with it only party talking points and other forms of creating division are considered worthy of discussion.
 
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padredurand

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C'mon you've been around here long enough to know legitimate questions aren't allowed.

This is the politics forum man get with it only party talking points and other forms of creating division are considered worthy of discussion.

I have white privilege. I didn't know there were rules. If there are rules I didn't know they applied to me. Will I get white guilt next? :wavey:
 

poncho

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I have white privilege. I didn't know there were rules. If there are rules I didn't know they applied to me. Will I get white guilt next? :wavey:

Don't know about white guilt but you'll lose all your Baptist Board credibility if you don't stick to the mainstream script!

So stick to the script!
 
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carpro

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You could have titled your thread "Cruz returns donation given by hate monger" and it would have been equally true. It would not have served your purpose but it would still be true.

Zaac is like a lot of leftists. He'd rather lie, even when the truth will work just as well.
 

carpro

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Regardless, what is it about Cruz that would attract money from such an organization?

Probably something similar to the same reason foreigners contribute to Obama and the Clintons.

Except to sell out your country is treasonous and that's of no consequence to leftists.
 

padredurand

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That's not a question. I know what you were doing and you know what you were attempting to do. So save the denials. :laugh:

Let me rephrase that then:

Could you have titled your thread "Cruz returns donation given by hate monger" and would it have been equally true?

There were two facts in the OP. That white supremacy feller gave money to Cruz's campaign. That is fact one. Cruz's campaign gave it back. That is fact two. You chose to emphasize the first fact. I prefer to focus on the latter. No fights, no troubling undertones, no hidden agenda. :thumbs:
 

Zaac

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Let me rephrase that then:

Could you have titled your thread "Cruz returns donation given by hate monger" and would it have been equally true?

There were two facts in the OP. That white supremacy feller gave money to Cruz's campaign. That is fact one. Cruz's campaign gave it back. That is fact two. You chose to emphasize the first fact. I prefer to focus on the latter. No fights, no troubling undertones, no hidden agenda. :thumbs:

And my point again is I didn't title it. I posted the title that the AUTHOR gave it.
 
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