Marcia
Active Member
I read about this possibility earlier and now it's happened.
http://cbs3.com/topstories/episcopal.lesbian.bishop.2.1352313.html
http://cbs3.com/topstories/episcopal.lesbian.bishop.2.1352313.html
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Lesbian Elected Ass't Bishop in Episcopal Church
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Though many of the local congregations have joined with the Anglican Church in North America, (ACNA)
Many have had to give their buildings back to the dioceses. They did it reluctantly, but were determined to stand for the Biblical Standards.
Many have had to give their buildings back to the dioceses. They did it reluctantly, but were determined to stand for the Biblical Standards.
Lets wait and see how long it takes for the Episcopal Church to elect it's first transgendered Wicca-Muslim as a “bishop”......they certainly must see a need for one. Seriously, this church has had practicing wiccan priest also as pastor of an Episcopal Church and another had a professed Muslim as pastor.
Although the former Episcopal diocese where I live left the Episcopal Church and became Anglican (along with 3 other dioceses), the majority of Episcopal Churches in the U.S. have long stopped being Bible believing. Several diocese have passed resolutions stating that the bible is a collection of historical books which are inaccurate and no longer relevant to our society.
The problems in this church started back in the sixties in the seminaries.
There are forty churches in the San Joaquin Valley that withdrew a couple of years back. The Episcopal Church is suing them all for the buildings and in the state of California will probably have to give the buildings back as a result. Isn't there something in I Corinthians about suing another Christian? Anyway, some parishes in the East have been able to keep their property and probably the ones in Texas will as well. I praise God that there are Christians willing to stand up for Jesus even at the cost of their buildings.
When the Episcopal Church elected Barbara Harris as the first women bishop of the Episcopal Church she actually was the first lesbian bishop as well. It was well known among the clergy but not among the laity. Gene Robinson was just the first openly gay bishop.
Katherine Schori was elected the Presiding Bishop even though it was well know she was a universalist. When she was asked whether or not she believed Jesus was 'the only way to salvation' she responded: 'I just can't keep God in that small of a box'.
The majority of Episcopal bishops are of like mind.
Katherine Schori was elected the Presiding Bishop even though it was well know she was a universalist. When she was asked whether or not she believed Jesus was 'the only way to salvation' she responded: 'I just can't keep God in that small of a box'.
The majority of Episcopal bishops are of like mind.
Yeah this shouldn't be a surprise...but then I always hope...
At this point I really think that belief in Jesus Christ is optional to be a priest or bishop in the Episcopal church.
As a side note...the um title of this thread has an interesting abbreviation...we accidently did that a couple of years ago for a church conference...it was, well, funny
At this point I really think that belief in Jesus Christ is optional to be a priest or bishop in the Episcopal church.
As a side note...the um title of this thread has an interesting abbreviation...we accidently did that a couple of years ago for a church conference...it was, well, funny
There are surely more, but I know of these: United Church of Christ, Episcopal Church, Unitarian Universalist Church, Evangelical Lutheran Church. There is a local American Baptist Church in my area that certainly would not hesitate to call a gay or lesbian pastor. They claim to be 'inclusive and gay friendly.'
They are gay (which is against Scripture). And even when you take "gay" off the table, they are people who are having sexual intercourse outside of marriage.
I say let the Episcopalian church crash and burn and die. Lot's of folks have already left it and are currently leaving it and will be leaving it in favor of many other denominations (Eastern Orthodox, RCC, fundamentalism, etc).
I know I just said to let them crash and burn, but don't we need to be praying for them?
SolaSaint
Well-Known Member
You have all heard of the "Jesus Seminar" It has many members from the Episcopalian denomination. I wonder if their anti Christian stances have led to this promotion of gays and lesbians as holding offices in there church? Maybe God has truly gave them over to a reprobate mind as He said he would.
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TEC has totally disappeared up its own 'ass't'.
Marcia
Active Member
Or was it that he was the first elected gay bishop with a partner? I can't recall now.
Also, I think the "Christian-Muslim" minister you mentioned earlier was asked to step down, but I'm sort of fuzzy on that.
Crucified in Christ
New Member
What we are seeing in the Episcopalian church is a great lesson for all Evangelicals. Attempt to knock the legs out from under the Bible and here is where you eventually end up. I know my old Logic Professor would fuss at me for this type of "Slippery slope" argument, but you can only watch so many people slide down the hill before the connection is inevitable. First infallibility goes, then church discipline goes, then traditional gender roles in church leadership goes...then anything goes.
You are right, the Christian-Muslim pastor was suspended but only because the bishop is somewhat bible believing. I doubt very much there would have been any suspension in most other dioceses of The Episcopal Church. Certainly not in the Episcopal Diocese of Los Angeles. Not so long ago the diocese 'celebrated' an Episcopal-Hindu service inviting everyone in attendance to recieve communion.
There is an excellent thread on 'Stand Firm' which documents the heresy's that began with Bishop Pike, etc. and shows what happens to a church when the authority of the bible is compromised.
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/13902/
Just follow the comments as it is amazing just how apostate that church has become.
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TEC have effectively written their valedictory as members of the Anglican Communion.
There is a lot of turmoil in the Anglican Churches world-wide. We have a split in Canada on such questions as well. Some church bodies have already divided to from "independent" Anglican Churches, with their own Bishop.
In my area, most of the vicars are evangelical, but it is a tough road with the congregations!
I know a few years back, when I went home to England, I preached each Sunday in an Anglican Church, and even the people were faithful to the Bible. Not sure how things are going these days.
I came to Christ in the Church of England. It was the evangelical church back in the 40's.
Cheers,
Jim
In my area, most of the vicars are evangelical, but it is a tough road with the congregations!
I know a few years back, when I went home to England, I preached each Sunday in an Anglican Church, and even the people were faithful to the Bible. Not sure how things are going these days.
I came to Christ in the Church of England. It was the evangelical church back in the 40's.
Cheers,
Jim