Lessons from the polemical writings of Andrew Fuller. Or Fuller v Gill

[Squire Robertsson]

Central Seminary: Conference video from Baptist historian David Saxon; "Lessons from the polemical writings of Andrew Fuller."
To understand modern Baptist missionary thought, you need to know about Andrew Fuller and his ministry.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

• Lecture I Andrew Fuller's Two Conversions
• Lecture II AndrewFuller Between Two Fires: Battling Hyper Calvinism and Arminianism
• Lecture III Andrew Fuller Against the Sandemanians
• Lecture IV Andrew Fuller Pastor and Missionary Statesman

 

[AustinC]

Who is Andrew Fuller? Is he like Charles Taze Russell?

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Good night no. He is a Particular Baptist Pastor and thinker. Take a look at the first video. it is a biographical look. Dr. Saxon is Maranatha Baptist University's professor of Church History. Why would you think he is another C.T. Russell?

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Who is Andrew Fuller? Is he like Charles Taze Russell?

Why would you think Pastor Fuller is anyone like the founder of the JW's?

 

[AustinC]

Why would you think Pastor Fuller is anyone like the founder of the JW's?

Having never heard of him, why wouldn't I.
My point is the OP never gives a summary of who Fuller is and what he taught that was against Reformed beliefs.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

If one has read the life of William Cary, then one has heard of Andrew Fuller. One problem may be that Central Baptist Seminary and Maranatha Baptist University were founded by men who came out of the Northern Baptist Convention. So, they have no formal ties to the SBC. Here is his wiki article. 'Sides, why would I post something about a C.T. Russell?

 

[Marooncat79]

Fuller stands as a stalwart in Baptist history

 

[Squire Robertsson]

what he taught that was against Reformed beliefs.

Fuller was a Particular Baptist. He was a thoroughgoing Calvinist. However, he came to an Evangelical Calvinist position. Please see The Gospel Worthy of all Acceptation.
Asking if he was against "Reformed beliefs", is to attempt to look at him through the lens of 2021 Baptist life.

 

[AustinC]

Fuller was a Particular Baptist. He was a thoroughgoing Calvinist. However, he came to an Evangelical Calvinist position. Please see The Gospel Worthy of all Acceptation.
Asking if he was against "Reformed beliefs", is to attempt to look at him through the lens of 2021 Baptist life.

Where did you steal that quote? I don't see any statement in this thread where I make the statement you quote. I don't know who Fuller is.

Oh, I see, you cut my sentence in half so as to make it seem like I said something different than what I said. Here's the full statement.

"My point is the OP never gives a summary of who Fuller is and what he taught that was against Reformed beliefs."

Squire, were you purposely being dishonest with my post?

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Where did you steal that quote? I don't see any statement in this thread where I make the statement you quote. I don't know who Fuller is.

Oh, I see, you cut my sentence in half so as to make it seem like I said something different than what I said. Here's the full statement.

"My point is the OP never gives a summary of who Fuller is and what he taught that was against Reformed beliefs."

Squire, were you purposely being dishonest with my post?

I quoted what I read as the operative part of the sentence. Other posts had already summarized who Fuller was.

 

[AustinC]

I quoted what I read as the operative part of the sentence. Other posts had already summarized who Fuller was.

You created an entire false narrative by cutting the sentence in half. Next time, please keep the whole quote and highlight the part that confuses you.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

You created an entire false narrative by cutting the sentence in half. Next time, please keep the whole quote and highlight the part that confuses you.

I wasn't confused. It was a good question from someone who had no idea of who, Andrew Fuller was. I can't see how I created an entirely false narrative. You had a compound sentence and I answered the second part.

 

[AustinC]

I wasn't confused. It was a good question from someone who had no idea of who, Andrew Fuller was. I can't see how I created an entirely false narrative. You had a compound sentence and I answered the second part.

The quote, as you slashed it, makes it sound like I was making an assertion that Fuller was definitely against Reformed theology. That is not what the full sentence conveys. Therefore your quote is dishonest in its portrayal of what I said.

 

[rlvaughn]

Squire, thanks for giving the links to the Andrew Fuller discussion.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

The quote, as you slashed it, makes it sound like I was making an assertion that Fuller was definitely against Reformed theology. That is not what the full sentence conveys. Therefore your quote is dishonest in its portrayal of what I said.

Sorry, for misreading your questions.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Squire, thanks for giving the links to the Andrew Fuller discussion.

Have you watched any of the videos? I've watched all of the first and am working my way through the second.

 

[Dave G]

I've made my views of Andrew Fuller known here:
A thread in Baptist Theology and Bible Study Forum. Or Fuller v. Gill

...and in other threads in the CvA section going back to perhaps 2019 or even 2018.

I also confess to not having watched any of the videos and I doubt that I will...
as I've taken the time, in the past, to read some of Fuller's writings ( and those who have written against his teachings ) and have decided that we are in disagreement.