Alan Gross
Well-Known Member
"Madame Helena Petrovna Blavatsky connections to Westcott & Hort:
"H. P. Blavatsky also attended the "Ghostly Guild" meetings with Westcott and Hort, along with Charles Darwin. In her books Isis Unveiled Vol. 1 and 2, and The Secret Doctrine Vol. 1 and 2, Blavatsky says, "we have the Bible in true in Codex Sinaiticus (א) and Codex Vaticanus (B)".
What else do you need to know about them?
Here is a look at Codex Vaticanus (B), from no less than, "a group of former Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, and Secularists sharing various facts that we have learned over the years," from: https://www.bibleready.org/
"Codex Vaticanus (Codex B).
The Vatican 1209 manuscript was found in the Vatican library in 1481 where it was supposedly lost or misplaced for 1000 years.
"It fares even worse than Sinaiticus in reliability if that is possible.
"It was also written in the distinctive Alexandrian type-text, indicating its origin was from Egypt.
"The following portions of Scripture are missing from the Vaticanus:
Genesis 1:1-46; 28;
Psalms 106-138;
Matthew 16:2-3;
Mark 16:9-20;
The Pastoral Epistles of 1 & 2 Timothy and Titus
as well as everything after Hebrews 9:14.
"These were intentional omissions because the manuscript was found in excellent condition with no pieces missing.
"In the Gospels, it leaves out 237 words, 452 clauses, and 748 whole sentences.
"These omissions were intentional since there was room left on pages to write these in.
"The Vaticanus manuscript was written on expensive Vellum and was in good condition when found which means that the missing areas were not due to missing sections but were intentional omissions.
"The image above is a Vaticanus leaf of Hebrews in the first chapter. If you look closely you will see marginal notations in the first empty space column between the first two text columns.
"Someone had erased a word in verse 3 and wrote another word in its place.
"Later, someone else came along and erased the "correction" and wrote back in the original word.
"The marginal note denounces the "corrector" using words that hardly seem Christian.
"The note reads, "Fool and knave, leave the old reading, don’t change it!" Instead of God-fearing Christians working on this; doesn't it seem more likely that unsaved bible critics, even non-believers have been editing this manuscript? See Matt. 5: 22b - "whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."
"Furthermore, the Vaticanus manuscript has nearly the entire text mutilated; almost every letter has been over-written with pen and ink.
"This of course makes exact identification of many of the characters impossible.
"Scholars think it was overwritten letter by letter in the 10th or 11th century, with accents and breathing marks added along with corrections from the 8th, 10th, and 15th centuries.
"Missing portions were supplied in the 15th century by copying other Greek manuscripts. Many of those who have studied this manuscript agree that all this revision makes precise paleographic analysis impossible.
"Consider these other comments:
"1. Dean John W Burgon: "The impurity of the text exhibited by these codices is not a question of opinion but fact...In the Gospels alone, Codex B(Vatican) leaves out words or whole clauses no less than 1,491 times. It bears traces of careless transcriptions on every page…"
"2. According to The Westminster Dictionary of the Bible, "It should be noted . . . that there are no prominent Biblical (manuscripts) in which there occur such gross cases of misspelling, faulty grammar, and omission, as in (Codex) B."
"3. Dr. David Brown observes: "I question the 'great witness' value of any manuscript that has been overwritten, doctored, changed and added to for more than 10 centuries." (The Great Unicals).
"4. Linguistic scholars have observed that Codex Vaticanus is reminiscent of classical and Platonic Greek, not Koine Greek of the New Testament (see Adolf Deissman's Light of the Ancient East).
"Nestle admitted that he had to change his Greek text (when using Vaticanus and Sinaiticus) to make it "appear" like Koine Greek.
"Codex Vaticanus contains the false Roman Catholic apocryphal books such as Judith, Tobias, and Baruch,
"while it omits the pastoral epistles (I Timothy through Titus),
"the Book of Revelation,
"and it cuts off the Book of Hebrews at Hebrews 9:14 (a very convenient stopping point for the Catholic Church since God forbids their priesthood in Hebrews 10 and exposes the mass as totally useless as well.
"Finally, it is estimated that Sinaiticus and Vaticanus disagree with each other at least 7000 times.
"These disagreements are not minor but involve major omissions and doctrinal conflicts of scripture.
"Just in the gospels alone there are the following number of disagreements:
Matthew 656
Mark 567
Luke 791
John 1022
Total Gospel Disagreements Between Vaticanus and Sinaiticus 3036 +
How can anyone realistically call these manuscripts "the best" simply because they are the oldest near-complete Greek NT manuscripts?
"There are older Greek manuscripts that are considered fragments.
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"H. P. Blavatsky also attended the "Ghostly Guild" meetings with Westcott and Hort, along with Charles Darwin. In her books Isis Unveiled Vol. 1 and 2, and The Secret Doctrine Vol. 1 and 2, Blavatsky says, "we have the Bible in true in Codex Sinaiticus (א) and Codex Vaticanus (B)".
What else do you need to know about them?
Here is a look at Codex Vaticanus (B), from no less than, "a group of former Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, and Secularists sharing various facts that we have learned over the years," from: https://www.bibleready.org/
"Codex Vaticanus (Codex B).
The Vatican 1209 manuscript was found in the Vatican library in 1481 where it was supposedly lost or misplaced for 1000 years.
"It fares even worse than Sinaiticus in reliability if that is possible.
"It was also written in the distinctive Alexandrian type-text, indicating its origin was from Egypt.
"The following portions of Scripture are missing from the Vaticanus:
Genesis 1:1-46; 28;
Psalms 106-138;
Matthew 16:2-3;
Mark 16:9-20;
The Pastoral Epistles of 1 & 2 Timothy and Titus
as well as everything after Hebrews 9:14.
"These were intentional omissions because the manuscript was found in excellent condition with no pieces missing.
"In the Gospels, it leaves out 237 words, 452 clauses, and 748 whole sentences.
"These omissions were intentional since there was room left on pages to write these in.
"The Vaticanus manuscript was written on expensive Vellum and was in good condition when found which means that the missing areas were not due to missing sections but were intentional omissions.
"The image above is a Vaticanus leaf of Hebrews in the first chapter. If you look closely you will see marginal notations in the first empty space column between the first two text columns.
"Someone had erased a word in verse 3 and wrote another word in its place.
"Later, someone else came along and erased the "correction" and wrote back in the original word.
"The marginal note denounces the "corrector" using words that hardly seem Christian.
"The note reads, "Fool and knave, leave the old reading, don’t change it!" Instead of God-fearing Christians working on this; doesn't it seem more likely that unsaved bible critics, even non-believers have been editing this manuscript? See Matt. 5: 22b - "whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."
"Furthermore, the Vaticanus manuscript has nearly the entire text mutilated; almost every letter has been over-written with pen and ink.
"This of course makes exact identification of many of the characters impossible.
"Scholars think it was overwritten letter by letter in the 10th or 11th century, with accents and breathing marks added along with corrections from the 8th, 10th, and 15th centuries.
"Missing portions were supplied in the 15th century by copying other Greek manuscripts. Many of those who have studied this manuscript agree that all this revision makes precise paleographic analysis impossible.
"Consider these other comments:
"1. Dean John W Burgon: "The impurity of the text exhibited by these codices is not a question of opinion but fact...In the Gospels alone, Codex B(Vatican) leaves out words or whole clauses no less than 1,491 times. It bears traces of careless transcriptions on every page…"
"2. According to The Westminster Dictionary of the Bible, "It should be noted . . . that there are no prominent Biblical (manuscripts) in which there occur such gross cases of misspelling, faulty grammar, and omission, as in (Codex) B."
"3. Dr. David Brown observes: "I question the 'great witness' value of any manuscript that has been overwritten, doctored, changed and added to for more than 10 centuries." (The Great Unicals).
"4. Linguistic scholars have observed that Codex Vaticanus is reminiscent of classical and Platonic Greek, not Koine Greek of the New Testament (see Adolf Deissman's Light of the Ancient East).
"Nestle admitted that he had to change his Greek text (when using Vaticanus and Sinaiticus) to make it "appear" like Koine Greek.
"Codex Vaticanus contains the false Roman Catholic apocryphal books such as Judith, Tobias, and Baruch,
"while it omits the pastoral epistles (I Timothy through Titus),
"the Book of Revelation,
"and it cuts off the Book of Hebrews at Hebrews 9:14 (a very convenient stopping point for the Catholic Church since God forbids their priesthood in Hebrews 10 and exposes the mass as totally useless as well.
"Finally, it is estimated that Sinaiticus and Vaticanus disagree with each other at least 7000 times.
"These disagreements are not minor but involve major omissions and doctrinal conflicts of scripture.
"Just in the gospels alone there are the following number of disagreements:
Matthew 656
Mark 567
Luke 791
John 1022
Total Gospel Disagreements Between Vaticanus and Sinaiticus 3036 +
How can anyone realistically call these manuscripts "the best" simply because they are the oldest near-complete Greek NT manuscripts?
"There are older Greek manuscripts that are considered fragments.
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