Liberal Baptist Fellowship - The Future?

[John Wells]

Good morning ladies and gentlemen and welcome to Living in the Flesh Baptist Church. We are a Liberal Baptist Fellowship Church. If you decide to make this your church home, new members will be provided a three-ring binder Bible for the low cost of $59.95. What’s nice about this Bible is that you can easily remove any pages that offend you or that you disagree with God about, because after all, we are “Living in the Flesh Baptist Church.” For instance, if you are a theistic evolutionist, we have a list of all the pages you can remove which include Genesis chapters 1-11, and well, uh, a good portion of the rest of the Bible. Hey, less to study, read, and worry about obeying, right?

Our seeker friendly church has something for everyone. Living in an alternative lifestyle? We have the “In the beginning Adam and Steve” class. Contemplating the inconvenience of that baby in the womb? We will help you make the “CHOICE” that’s right for you through our “The God of Inconvenience 101” class!

Today’s sermon, by pastor Judy, is entitled “Women, Let Him Know Who’s the Boss!” Sounds exciting. I can’t wait! Pastor Judy . . .

 

[Rev. Joshua]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Joy:
Don't miss next Sunday when Pope John Paul will be our guest speaker!
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've never understood what ultra-conservative Christians have against the current Pope. He opposes the ordination of women, his stand on abortion is so strong that he opposes any form of birth control, and his stand on the Bible would make an inerrantist proud.

Of course, I think this makes him the worst Pope in forty years (maybe since Pius IX), but I would think that fundamentalists would love him.

Joshua

 

[Roy]

George W. must use one of those 3-ring binder Bibles. He apparently tossed out the page containing "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me" when he took off his shoes and entered the mosque to read from the Koran.
About the Pope; If he thinks he can forgive other men's sins, then he needs to get saved. I am sure that most fundamentalists are concerned for his soul, but they would not want him for a leader.

 

[Joy]

Simple- he's Catholic, and we hate Catholicism. We also hate the one world church push from the liberal camp.

The above post was just satire. No personal offense meant to you as a liberal. I think the only thing we have in common is our anniversaries!

 

[John Wells]

Joshua,

On abortion I applaud Catholics. On inerrancy, I laugh. They either don't know how to read and understand what the Bible clearly says, or they are taking extreme liberties of interpretation, one or the other. All the "add-on" decrees by the RCC make them the largest cult in the world. If the Pope, like most Catholics, are trusting in their works (plus faith) to get them to heaven, then he's not even saved.

 

[Dr. Bob]

And I applaud our President who did the proper thing in taking off his shoes to enter a mosque. It is proper etiquette. Just like wearing a yarmulke at the wailing wall. Or a coat and tie in a non-air conditioned Baptist church when it's 120 out.

Why would I track in my shoes into a place where people are going to kneel and sit. I have done so hundreds of times. I studied in the Blue Mosque in Istanbul. Left my shoes on the rack outside for hours at a time and never worried about them being stolen.

Man, I'd ask you to take off your shoes before you tracked in on my new carpeting!

 

[rhoneycutt]

Joy,
I dont believe anouncements would be made aloud in a church of this sort. It would be liturgical in style, theocentric, no clapping or childrens sermon or fruitbasket turnover for a welcome.
Where is this place, might like to visit.
Russell

 

[rhoneycutt]

Dr. Bob,
I agree but can I loosen my tie if it gets past 100. We are blessed with AC thank goodness.
Russell

 

[Rev. Joshua]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Joy:
Simple- he's Catholic, and we hate Catholicism. We also hate the one world church push from the liberal camp.

The above post was just satire. No personal offense meant to you as a liberal. I think the only thing we have in common is our anniversaries!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I actually thought the posts were very funny, and an indicator of just how diverse baptist life is. I just thought I'd point out that John Paul II's theology would generally be much more welcome in an IFB church than a liberal baptist one.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not too happy about the veneration of Mary of any of the other vestiges of having an old, official, state church; but I don't believe Roman Catholicism is evil or un-Christian (any more than I believe baptist Christianity is un-Christian because of the unhealthy beliefs of many baptists).

Joshua

 

[Roy]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dr. Bob Griffin:
[QB]And I applaud our President who did the proper thing in taking off his shoes to enter a mosque.QB]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, if he is going to pay hommage to a false god, I guess you are right. He should be applauded for using proper etiquette in doing so.

[ October 02, 2001: Message edited by: roy ]

 

[Ars]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rev. Joshua Villines:
I actually thought the posts were very funny, and an indicator of just how diverse baptist life is. I just thought I'd point out that John Paul II's theology would generally be much more welcome in an IFB church than a liberal baptist one.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, in my particular IFB church, the Pope's theology is definitely not welcome. In no way shape or form. Just because he views a select few things the same way, in no way makes them accepted by an IFB church. Since IFB churches are, by nature of their name, independent, I cannot comment on the rest. However, I know of at least five IFB churches that are very much against John Paul II's theology.

 

[Rev. Joshua]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dajuid:
However, I know of at least five IFB churches that are very much against John Paul II's theology.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm not surprised by that at all. I'm just pointing out that theologically he's closer to most IFB's (on the issue that divide them from liberal baptists) than he is to most liberal baptists.

Joshua

 

[swaimj]

Very different theological systems sometimes have similar conclusions in some areas but that doesn't mean they are compatible. Hey, feminists and fundamentalists both oppose pornography, but not always for the same reasons. I look at it this way: Liberals are way to my left and RCC's are way to my right which makes me, as an IFB, a middle of the roader! WHODATHUNKIT?

 

[dan wood]

im a liberal baptist former fundamentalist and PROUD of it.i appear to have stumbled into americas taliban email messages.

 

[John Wells]

Hello Dan,

We shoot first and ask questions latter around here! Just kidding. Welcome to the board. From your intro it's doubtful we'll agree much, but welcome anyway!

 

[dan wood]

hello.the liberals are scared to fight back against the fundamentalist and conservative rhetoric.im not.i enjoy debate and discussion.as a pastor im always on the edge in theology.i love my fundamentalist brothers and sisters.most of them just dont love me.

 

[John Wells]

Well, we'll have none of that kind of attitude here! Right brothers and sisters?

Maybe as a way of introduction, you might share a little of your theological views on controversial subjects? Please use the appropriate subject forums. You're welcome moderators!

 

[Rev. Joshua]

The weird thing is that when we talk (or shout) long enough, we find out that we agree on a few things.

Heck, John and I might start a church together someday. I'll preach from the left side of the pulpit!

Joshua

 

[John Wells]

I would prefer to just heckle you from the congregation!

 

[rhoneycutt]

Joshua & John,

Please let me know when where etc. I want to video and/or sell tickets.

Joshua, when are you gonna post some more sermons?

Peace!
Russell