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Liberals May Win Control of the SBC

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  1. Revmitchell

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    The Southern Baptist Convention, America's largest protestant denomination and a historically conservative wing of the Christian church in the United States, is on the verge of falling to organized “progressive” social-justice forces and anti-Trump activists, according to media reports and insiders involved in the battle. One leading opponent of the scheme has even blasted what he described as the “Evangelical Deep State” working to infect the church with unbiblical ideologies.

    The goals of these forces, dubbed “neo-Marxist” by some critics, include softening and eventually quashing Christian opposition to homosexuality, normalizing gender confusion in the church, promoting left-wing politics at all levels of government, fueling constant obsession and angst over race and gender, facilitating mass Islamic migration into the United States, and much more.

    Most rank-and-file Southern Baptists remain oblivious to what is happening, insiders said. But the implications for the church, the culture, the nation, and politics could be earth-shattering.

    Still, the battle is not over. Critics of the controversial progressive effort to take over the SBC are fighting back hard ahead of the annual Southern Baptist Convention meeting in Dallas between June 12 and 13.

    Among other tactics, conservatives within the denomination are pushing a resolution that would strongly condemn the “unbiblical” and “Marxist-based” so-called “social justice” movement. According to the text of the measure, “social justice by definition is based on anti-biblical and destructive concepts of Marxist ideology.”

    The measure also says social-justice activism “should be considered evil” and represents “a vehicle to promote abortion, homosexuality, gender confusion, and a host of other ideas that are antithetical to the gospel.” The resolution also cites the Methodist and Episcopal denominations as a warning, noting that their membership numbers are collapsing following the embrace of “social justice.”

    The resolution, proposed by Pastor Grady Arnold of Calvary Baptist Church in Texas, would represent a devastating blow to the “social justice” forces seeking to hijack the SBC.

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    The outcome of the battle remains uncertain. But Southern Baptist pastors and leaders are warning that if the progressives succeed, organized conservative Christianity in America may collapse.

    “It's not an overstatement to say the progressive movement is on the verge of taking control of the [Southern Baptist] Convention,” Pastor Grady told The New American. “They are very friendly with liberal theology, with feminism, with the LGBTQ movement, and so on. They may not push those views, but they're friendly to them. The next step is to embrace those views — a continual softening until it becomes an embrace.”

    Liberals May Win Control of Largest U.S. Protestant Denomination
     
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    I think the problem is that all manmade institutions suffer from entropy. And all eventually fail. I cannot think of one institutional church that retained the purity of doctrine it started out with.
     
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    I know this is an ongoing problem. I was in a SBC break-away church for awhile in the 70s and the pastor mentioned the neo-orthodox influences then taking over. But even as in the case of Luther and Calvin, I don't think you can reform something inherently wrong to begin with. We only become more of the same with a better facade until entropy again overtakes our new version.
     
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    There is nothing inherently wrong with the convention. Good grief
     
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    I do not find any institutional church (think chain shoe store) in the New Testament.
     
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    Are you trying to say that the SBC is a church?
     
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    I define "institutional Church" as a religious version of a chain shoe store franchise. Or any corporate franchise. McDonald's etc. It isn't biblical.
     
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    It appears you do not know how the cooperative works.
     
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    A simply "yes" or "No" will do.
     
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    Perhaps, but can you point to anything like today's denominations and church franchises in scripture?
     
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    None of the people accused in this propaganda piece are liberals. It's just a handy label to slap onto folks who don't tow the Patterson line. The guilt-by-association attack on Moore is astounding in its brazen stupidity. Moore came to prominence in the SBC by his dishonest attacks on the CBF that were published in the Baptist Press. He has apparently found a conscience in recent years and has decided to take seriously his job as an ethical prophet in the SBC instead of a propagandist, and the Trump-enamored folks don't like it. One's commitment to Trump appears to be more important than one's commitment to Jesus, and that is deplorable.

    The SBC is dying because of the way the leadership of the last 30 years has undermined the gospel through petty partisanship and ethical hypocrisy. The young people who raised in the midst of the blossoming of the so-called "conservative resurgence" either want nothing to do with it, or realize it needs to change. If the Pattersonites want to start a war against the next generation in the convention, they will effectively finish killing off the SBC.
     
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    This is a fight for the SBC, to either stay strong and preach the real Gospel of Christ, or else teach the false gospel of man.
     
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    Propaganda piece?? I expect no less from you. This piece is a VERY accurate assessment in my opinion. What is happening in the SBC reminds me of how the left took over the education system, insideously. A big push in that direction the last couple of years, now they’re going in for the kill shot. Good Christians, who aren’t too busy, see what is occurring. You try the scare tactics of killing the young vote, yet the CapstoneReport article which I referenced the other day on this subject, comes from a southern, large, university.

    What better place for a takeover than in the largest, & most conservative religious organization? The SBC. What a feather in the cap of the left. Then they can tell us it’s what the people wanted. We’ve evolved. We can’t turn off potential members with our ‘outdated’ ways. We’re racist. We’re homophobe. We’re mysogynistic. On & on they go with the guilt trip to force their change. Yeah. Now you come in to defend that agenda, & your head is spinning at the thought that the SBC might be trying to reverse course. Well, I hope they do.
     
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    All done in the name of "fairness and social justice", as God forbid that we want to be labeled still as the group that uphold God's standard on morality and distinctions between males/females, and agianst the gay/lesbian /transgender movement!
     
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    "Because of the opprobrious epithet "liberal," today they call themselves "moderates." A skunk by any other name still stinks!" ~ W. A. Criswell
     
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    Can you point to the use of toilets in scripture? Anyway the SBC is not a denomination it is a cooperative.
     
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    If it can be taken over enmasse by one group as opposed to another, how can it not be an unscriptural union?
     
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    I am lost as to how you believe one leads to the other.
     
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    Moderate Christianity just a codename for those holding to a Christianity without the real Jesus, or use of the real Bible!
     
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