Local Pastors Rally Round Church Exiting PC-USA

[Jerome]

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_...churches-pitch-48k-toward-first-presbyterians

First Presbyterian must pay a $2.29 million settlement fee to the denomination it's leaving.

pastors from other area churches showed up this week with a significant contribution . . . .The $48,000 was delivered in person to a church staff meeting on Tuesday. The cash gifts came from churches ranging in size from the massive Flatirons Community Church in Lafayette with its metro area congregation of roughly 20,000, to more modest-sized parishes such as Vinelife in Gunbarrel, Ascent Community Church in Louisville, Boulder's Cornerstone church, Boulder Valley Christian Church and The Well in Boulder.

First Presbyterian Church Boulder

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_...churches-pitch-48k-toward-first-presbyterians



First Presbyterian Church Boulder

A 2M dollar settlement fee? REALLY!!!

 

[annsni]

The settlement fee is more than likely buying the property from the Presbytery. Our old church where my husband was an elder is also leaving the PCUSA and they will have to come up with a sum total to buy the building and property but they haven't heard how much yet. It's heartbreaking how far the PCUSA has gone but then again it's not a surprise since they were going in this direction 25 years ago when we were there.

 

[Internet Theologian]

The settlement fee is more than likely buying the property from the Presbytery. Our old church where my husband was an elder is also leaving the PCUSA and they will have to come up with a sum total to buy the building and property but they haven't heard how much yet. It's heartbreaking how far the PCUSA has gone but then again it's not a surprise since they were going in this direction 25 years ago when we were there.

Are you all reformed baptists now?

 

[annsni]

Are you all reformed baptists now?

Not officially but pretty much.

 

[Internet Theologian]

Not officially but pretty much.

Our son went Presby, but quite conservative and orthodox, accept for the dunking infants thing. Speechless Whistling

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

The settlement fee is more than likely buying the property from the Presbytery. Our old church where my husband was an elder is also leaving the PCUSA and they will have to come up with a sum total to buy the building and property but they haven't heard how much yet. It's heartbreaking how far the PCUSA has gone but then again it's not a surprise since they were going in this direction 25 years ago when we were there.

I would tell them to stick it and have services at a 7 Day church, high school or some other accomodation.

 

[annsni]

I would tell them to stick it and have services at a 7 Day church, high school or some other accomodation.

In our old church's case, the church was right in the middle of a very large village so the location was really visible and losing that building would be hard. They are in the midst of meeting with the Presbytery to figure out the finances to buy the building.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

In our old church's case, the church was right in the middle of a very large village so the location was really visible and losing that building would be hard. They are in the midst of meeting with the Presbytery to figure out the finances to buy the building.

You gotta quit thinkin that way Ann, Christ had no place to lay his head....he preached in open fields and in boats. So let them have the building.......they are dead anyway. And God will provide.

 

[annsni]

You gotta quit thinkin that way Ann, Christ had no place to lay his head....he preached in open fields and in boats. So let them have the building.......they are dead anyway. And God will provide.

And He seems to be providing a way for them to buy a building in a great location with a lot of ministry potential. Trust me - we've been struggling with less than ideal physical locations and it's TOUGH. Having a building like that - a church that has been there for almost 100 years on Main Street in the heart of the village - is golden.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

And He seems to be providing a way for them to buy a building in a great location with a lot of ministry potential. Trust me - we've been struggling with less than ideal physical locations and it's TOUGH. Having a building like that - a church that has been there for almost 100 years on Main Street in the heart of the village - is golden.

I have a church I visit....they rent from 7 Dayers....and that in itself is a blessing. In a way, it is perfered God operates where he will....our worship is to His glory. What does it matter where the location is? I am reminded of George Whitefield who went out into the fields and church graveyards...and he was quite successful.

 

[annsni]

I have a church I visit....they rent from 7 Dayers....and that in itself is a blessing. In a way, it is perfered God operates where he will....our worship is to His glory. What does it matter where the location is? I am reminded of George Whitefield who went out into the fields and church graveyards...and he was quite successful.

How many churches have you seen be successful in this area that meet in "unconventional" locations? Renting from another church is what we are doing for our campus and even then it's not easy but when we were in the hotel and warehouse? WAY tougher! I know my brother's church in Maryland meets in a school and they are doing really well (thousands on a Sunday morning) but it just doesn't seem to work here. Why give up a prime building and location - where you have been for almost 100 years just because you are leaving the main organization? There's no reason to give up the building if they don't have to.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I have a church I visit....they rent from 7 Dayers....and that in itself is a blessing. In a way, it is perfered God operates where he will....our worship is to His glory. What does it matter where the location is? I am reminded of George Whitefield who went out into the fields and church graveyards...and he quite successful.

How many churches have you seen be successful in this area that meet in "unconventional" locations? Renting from another church is what we are doing for our campus and even then it's not easy but when we were in the hotel and warehouse? WAY tougher! I know my brother's church in Maryland meets in a school and they are doing really well (thousands on a Sunday morning) but it just doesn't seem to work here. Why give up a prime building and location - where you have been for almost 100 years just because you are leaving the main organization? There's no reason to give up the building if they don't have to.

Just so I understand, you are in NY right?

 

[annsni]

Just so I understand, you are in NY right?

Lawn guyland

 

[Jerome]

What a blessing that so many different churches in the community are willing to support FPC Boulder's move to be faithful to Scripture.


Besides the financial assessment, the PC(USA) presbytery won't let the church leave unless it changes its name:

http://fpcboulder.org/this-week-at-first-pres/first-pres-weekly-update-may-12-2016/

Everyone is invited to attend a Question and Answer session about our new ECO denomination with Pastor Jane Filkin and First Pres Elders on Sunday, May 22 at 11am in Westminster Hall. Come learn about our new denomination and what this change means for our Church.

As many of you are well aware, one of the provisions of our congregation leaving the PC(USA) denomination was that we either: a) Embrace an entirely new name with very few additional stipulations; or, b) Legally and publicly add a tagline to our name, making our full name First Presbyterian Church of Boulder: An ECO Congregation. This provision was required by the Presbytery of Plains and Peaks in our settlement.