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Looking for a Jonathan Edwards quote

Tom Bryant

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In listening to Erwin Lutzer's presentation about why we have to believe in hell from his book "One Minute after You Die" he mentioned a quote from Jonathan Edwards to the effect the greatness of our sin is determined by the greatness of the person who was sinned against.

I have spent the last 30 minutes googling it and haven't been able to find the exact quote. Can anyone help me?
 

Skandelon

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I remembered that teaching from Thomas Aquinas, but maybe Edwards taught something similar as well...

Now a sin which is committed against God is infinite. For the gravity of a sin increases according to the greatness of the person sinned against; and God’s greatness is infinite. Therefore an infinite punishment is due for a sin committed against God.
-Aquinas
 

Tom Bryant

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I remembered that teaching from Thomas Aquinas, but maybe Edwards taught something similar as well...


Quote:Now a sin which is committed against God is infinite. For the gravity of a sin increases according to the greatness of the person sinned against; and God’s greatness is infinite. Therefore an infinite punishment is due for a sin committed against God.
-Aquinas

Thanks. It may have been Aquinas he was quoting. The statement was in the same context: that man's sin was eternally punished.
Appreciate it.
 

rsr

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A crime is more or less heinous, according as we are under greater or less obligations to the contrary. This is self-evident; because it is herein that the criminalness or faultiness of any thing consists, that it is contrary to what we are obliged or bound to, or what ought to be in us. So the faultiness of one being hating another, is in proportion to his obligation to love him. The crime of one being despising and casting contempt on another, is proportionably more or less heinous, as he was under greater or less obligations to honour him. The fault of disobeying another, is greater or less, as any one is under greater or less obligations to obey him. And therefore if there be any being that we are under infinite obligations to love, and honour, and obey, the contrary towards him must be infinitely faulty.

Our obligation to love, honour, and obey any being, is in proportion to his loveliness, honourableness, and authority; for that is the very meaning of the words. When we say any one is very lovely, it is the same as to say, that he is one very much to be loved. Or if we say such a one is more honourable than another, the meaning of the words is, that he is one that we are more obliged to honour. If we say any one has great authority over us, it is the same as to say, that he has great right to our subjection and obedience.
But God is a being infinitely lovely, because he hath infinite excellency and beauty. To have infinite excellency and beauty, is the same thing as to have infinite loveliness. He is a being of infinite greatness, majesty, and glory; and therefore he is infinitely honourable. He is infinitely exalted above the greatest potentates of the earth, and highest angels in heaven; and therefore he is infinitely more honourable than they. His authority over us is infinite; and the ground of his right to our obedience is infinitely strong; for he is infinitely worthy to be obeyed himself, and we have an absolute, universal, and infinite dependence upon him.

So that sin against God, being a violation of infinite obligations, must be a crime infinitely heinous, and so deserving of infinite punishment.- Nothing is more agreeable to the common sense of mankind, than that sins committed against any one, must be proportionably heinous to the dignity of the being offended and abused; as it is also agreeable to the word of God, I Samuel 2:25. "If one man sin against another, the judge shall judge him;" (i.e. shall judge him, and inflict a finite punishment, such as finite judges can inflict;) "but if a man sin against the Lord, who shall entreat for him?" This was the aggravation of sin that made Joseph afraid of it. Genesis 39:9. "How shall I commit this great wickedness, and sin against God?" This was the aggravation of David's sin, in comparison of which he esteemed all others as nothing, because they were infinitely exceeded by it. Psalm 51:4. "Against thee, thee only have I sinned."-The eternity of the punishment of ungodly men renders it infinite: and it renders it no more than infinite; and therefore renders no more than proportionable to the heinousness of what they are guilty of.

The Justice of God in the Damnation of Sinners

http://www.biblebb.com/files/edwards/JE-justice.htm
 

Jerome

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The passage directly follows Lutzer paraphrasing Edwards—"the reason we find hell so offensive is because of our insensitivity to sin"—but is in a new paragraph.
 

webdog

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I remembered that teaching from Thomas Aquinas, but maybe Edwards taught something similar as well...
That's a great quote refuting "L" that shows man is not paying for his sins in hell as God requires infinite repayment, not eternal. Man cannot supply this...but Christ did, once for all sin.

So that sin against God, being a violation of infinite obligations, must be a crime infinitely heinous, and so deserving of infinite punishment. Amen Jonathan Edwards...too bad he didn't believe it ;)
 

HankD

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That's a great quote refuting "L" that shows man is not paying for his sins in hell as God requires infinite repayment, not eternal. Man cannot supply this...but Christ did, once for all sin.

So that sin against God, being a violation of infinite obligations, must be a crime infinitely heinous, and so deserving of infinite punishment. Amen Jonathan Edwards...too bad he didn't believe it ;)

Hmm, what did you mean by that last statement WD?

I did a doubletake one day while reading Jonathan Edwards, who, commenting on hell, the said comments were followed in parantheses by ("if there be such a place").

My conclusion was that it had been added by someone else.
Do you know of similar statements?

Thanks
HankD
 

Luke2427

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In listening to Erwin Lutzer's presentation about why we have to believe in hell from his book "One Minute after You Die" he mentioned a quote from Jonathan Edwards to the effect the greatness of our sin is determined by the greatness of the person who was sinned against.

I have spent the last 30 minutes googling it and haven't been able to find the exact quote. Can anyone help me?

Yes, I have the quote in a book of mine called "The Wrath of Almighty God" which is a compilation of Edwards' sermons on the subject.

I will see if I can find it.
 
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