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Man kills his son - doctor recommends suicide

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by El_Guero, Aug 18, 2006.

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  1. El_Guero

    El_Guero New Member

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    http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/08/18/greece.plunge/index.html
     
    #1 El_Guero, Aug 18, 2006
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    I wonder if the Dr. was trying to say that they expect him to attempt suicide again.
     
    #2 DeeJay, Aug 19, 2006
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    The word 'should' implies a moral obligation I would think - but something may have been lost in translation.
     
    #3 El_Guero, Aug 19, 2006
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    Under what circumstances would you think that?

    "Should" does not imply moral obligation. I can look at a cloudy sky right now and say, "it should rain today."

    This is a strange quote in the article, but I don't think it necessarily implies that a doctor is reccomending suicide
     
    #4 Lagardo, Aug 20, 2006
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    Uh . . . I have no idea what you were trying to communicate.

    Will and shall are used differently here in the US than they are used abroad - I do know that and took that into consideration.

    Should being past tense of the verb shall implies 'he should have done that', and a completed action of a suicide attempt is - suicide. I am in the USA that we use the past tense of shall for present tense . . . much more often than we should use 'should'.

    I covered the most likely issue of mistranslation. However, given the circumstances and what the entire article said - I agree with the doctor. He will commit suicide, he should have already committed suicide, he shall commit suicide when he gets the opportunity - these all carry the weight of his responsibility and expected remorse for his actions.
     
    #5 El_Guero, Aug 20, 2006
  6. Lagardo

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    Thanks for clearing it up for those of us in Missouri that might not know how it is in the USA. :thumbs:

    I still do not see where the doctor is reccomending suicide.
     
    #6 Lagardo, Aug 20, 2006
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    Glad I was able to show you what you needed to hear . . .
     
    #7 El_Guero, Aug 21, 2006
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