Military ID for Vets?

Have to think on this.

HankD

 

There's no way to vet people once they've been discharged, honorably or otherwise.

Makes me think back to a few months ago, a company (that does quite a bit of business with the military) was shipping some freight to us. And used a felon for the driver. Of course he pops up on a check at the gate, I have to arrange for some MPs to escort him to our loading dock. It was all a pain in the rear.

So while a card indicating privileges is fine, a card for access brings a lot of other headaches.

 

But that still doesn't vet anyone. How do we know that after leaving the .mil they haven't done any of the below:

UNESCORTED ACCESS DENIAL CRITERIA

A check of the National Crime Information Center Interstate Identification Index (NCIC III) is the Army's baseline background check for entrance onto Army installations. The Senior Commander will, in the absence of an approved waiver, deny unescorted access based on the results of the NCIC III background check, when the results contain credible derogatory information. Such derogatory information includes but is not limited to the following:

• individual has criminal arrest information that indicates they may present a threat to good order, discipline, or health and safety on the installation
  
  
• if unable to verify an individual's claimed identity based on reasonable belief that fraudulent information was submitted in an attempt to hide identity to gain access
  
  
• individual has a current arrest warrant, regardless of the offense or violation
  
  
• individual is currently barred from entry or access to any federal installation or facility
  
  
• individual was convicted of any crime encompassing sexual assault, armed robbery, rape, child molestation, production or possession of child pornography, trafficing in humans, drug possession with the intent to sell or drug distribution
  
  
• individual has a US conviction for espionage, sabotage, treason, terrorism or murder
  
  
• individual is a registered sex offender
  
  
• individual has a felony conviction within the past 10 years, regardless of offense or violation
  
  
• individual was convicted of a felony firearms or explosives violation
  
  
• individual has engaged in acts or activities designed to overthrow the US Government by force
  
  
• individual is identified in the Terrorist Screening Database as known to be or suspected of being a terrorist or belonging to an organization with known links to terrorism or support of terrorist activity
  

 

To that, I would say have the access be good for three years, after which they have to reapply. And if something like that is on their record, they get denied.

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Shopping in the exchanges and commissaries is more expensive than Sam's, Walmart, Costco, Amazon and Ali Baba, even if one lives near the installation. Not sure many veterans would be interested in access to military installations--golf, theater, pools, hobby shops--maybe.

The money would be better spent on PTSD which is rampant.

Computers would be a cheaper way to control the security aspects. However the VA computer system seldom works when I need it--.gov can be a nightmare.

The wonders of bureaucracy. We are in the throes of governments making promises they cannot keep. Big business is the same way. It is time to pay the piper and most everyone is drowning in red ink.

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James

 

Not sure how you came to this conclusion. We live roughly 45 minutes from our nearest post. And my wife drives that to save money shopping at the commissary rather than shopping at our local Walmart and Kroger's.

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Recent example: Men's shirt: retail tag, $125, NEX price: $90. Sam's sells real nice men's shirts for under $30. Most of this kind of stuff is made in Sri Lanka sweatshops by slave labor.

Good, better and best is not available in exchanges and commissaries--not many generic products available.

Lookout for Amazon.com.

You working night shift, Sapper? I guess I am still programmed for sentry duty.

Bro. James

 

Oh yeah. Some items you're definitely better off shipping elsewhere. If you don't care about brand, then the PX is not for you when it comes to clothing.

But what we've find is that the same brands and items will be cheaper at the PX and commissary than at the usual retail stores.

And no, I'm not working the night shift. I just couldn't sleep.

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I have no desire to go back on some military post or base somewhere. I served my country gladly and honorably, but am happy to be a civilian and I can buy anything I want right here outside the gates. Now, if they would let me fly Space Available on military aircraft I might change my tune.

 

Hey, I would but I'm too old
I would want a commission though after all my education.

But like you I wouldn't want to live on base though - UGH!

HankD

 

Now Space A would be the way to go as retired military, I mean really you could travel all over the world for free. I did a lot of that when I was active duty - it was a great way to travel.

 

Just my two cents -- y'all are describing a card similar to the blue retirees' card. Allows access to the base, commissary, Exchange, and Space A travel.

So provide a card of different color with the same privileges.

Be careful about retiree Space A; you're a Category 6, and everyone else has priority over you. You can get stuck somewhere for days, even weeks.