John 10:38 But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father."
Did you hear that? Jesus said EVEN THOUGH YOU DO
NOT BELIEVE ME.
BELIEVE THE MIRACLES. THAT YOU MAY KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT THE FATHER IS IN ME, AND I IN THE FATHER.
So Calvinists, if God causes people to believe first by the Holy Spirit doing something to them to make them believe, then why does Jesus say believe the miracles? Why would Jesus even need to do miracles if the Holy Spirit causes them to believe? Why would Jesus be trying to
convince people to believe if he knows that N
NE can believe?
Calvinism is nonsensical, and goes against the Word of God.
Paul clearly tells the Corinthians there are two contrasting conclusions when we share the gospel. Either people will believe it or reject it but in both cases God is glorified.
2 Cor. 2:15
For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish:
16 To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things?
Preaching the gospel accomplishes the will of God in those who reject it as well as in those who receive it so that God is glorified by both. So to conclude that he presented the gospel trying to save them is something you do not know. The gospel provides the basis for judgement as well as the basis for salvation (Rom. 2:16)
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In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
Miracles never brought anyone to salvation as they rejected the greatest of all miracles the resurrection of Jesus Christ. In the non-fictional story of Lazerus Abraham said if they will not believe the scriptures ("Moses and the prophets) they will not believe if one who has been raised from the dead.
Miracles simply confirm His Word that is was the Word of God (Acts 2:22):
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Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
When the Pharisees and scribes explicitly asked Christ to perform a sign here is what he told them:
Mt 12:38
Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
Mt 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
Jesus plainly states that "NO MAN" not just Jews but "NO MAN cometh unto me EXCEPT the Father draw him" and this is interpreted by Christ in John 6:64-65 to mean that faith must be "given unto him."
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No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
Furthermore, EVERY SINGLE ONE that the Father draws is saved as that is the clear explicit demand of the last phrase in John 6:44 and the clear and explicit demand in John 6:45:
44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
Jesus just previously stated that every single person that cometh unto him he shall not lose any of them "
but should raise it up again at the last day." - v. 39
The fact, that EVERY SINGLE ONE that the Father draws, gives faith unto so that the can come to the Son will not be lost but will be raised up completely destroyes your whole soteriology from A to Z! Your soteriology cannot permit EVERY SINGLE ONE the Father draws to be ultimately and finally saved. That very fact sinks your soteriological ship and sends it spirling down to the depth of hell where it belongs.
Your soteriology demands that only SOME may be saved that are drawn while others drawn will be lost. Hence, your soteriology is wrong! Unbiblical! Heretical!
If you respond that this passage of scripture (Jn 6) was intended only for a special group of Jews - that is a lie as Jesus says "NO MAN can come to me except the Father draws him." Since everything Jesus said in the four gospels was directed to Jews then to be consistent you would have to reject everything Jesus said in the gospels as applicable to anyone but the jews.
However, Paul said the same thing when writing to Gentiles concering the inability of the fallen nature of man (Rom. 3:9-20; 8:7-8). Hence, you have to make another SPECIAL application to Gentiles only don't you! However, Paul includes both "JEWS" as well as "GENTILES" in this description (Rom. 3:9) and so your soteriological ship is blown apart and sent spirling down to the depths of hell again!
