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Mississippi Baptist Convention boots CBF church
- Thread starter rlvaughn
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Good!
Wonderful! Now the left can riot, burn and pillage, (you know, peacefully protest)those haters at Mississippi Baptist Convention.
As Revmitchell knows from my post to his forum "This is more evil than anything else in this country" that, as I have mentioned elsewhere, I comment on scriptural matters. This here, in my opinion, is a scriptural matter because a Church is involved. I will not debate anyone who disagrees with me.
You are all correct! I believe in Church discipline. No one is exempt, not even a Church. I do not believe I am being hostile about this.
Is it becasue the Pastor has a monetary investment in Guidestone Financial ?
If so - should Guidestone have a policy that would allow a pastor who has 10 years investment to stay in the system - even if his church leaves the SBC?
Absolutely right!
I hadn't thought of that, but that seems like a good possibility.
Another thing I had thought of is that maybe at the local level some of these churches are just used to fellowshipping in the local association and don't want to change.
Brandon Jones
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So I'm confused at the actual issue here: that this particular church listed itself in some publication as a place to which troubled gay youth could reach? Shouldn't that be exactly what we SHOULD be doing, attempting to serve the hurting people of the world? I DIDN'T SAY CONDONE, I said serve...
from the op:
"Northminster leadership decided they had no problem being publicly identified as a safe place for individuals and families who would be using the guide."
If the gay community are intentionally listing you as a "safe place" it means they view you as being safe to be accepted as being gay. If they thought for one moment that the church taught that the bible says living a gay life style is sin they would not mark you as being "safe".
"Northminster leadership decided they had no problem being publicly identified as a safe place for individuals and families who would be using the guide."
If the gay community are intentionally listing you as a "safe place" it means they view you as being safe to be accepted as being gay. If they thought for one moment that the church taught that the bible says living a gay life style is sin they would not mark you as being "safe".
Hello...
J D Greear's church also wants to be a safe place for these folks (Greear was very nearly elected SBC President in 2016):
jdgreear.com/blog/is-your-church-a-safe-place-for-people-with-same-sex-attraction/
J D Greear's church also wants to be a safe place for these folks (Greear was very nearly elected SBC President in 2016):
jdgreear.com/blog/is-your-church-a-safe-place-for-people-with-same-sex-attraction/
What is your position in line? The large majority of your posts are casting stones at somebody or somebodies.
Ain't that the question's answer!
Then lets see what the pastor of Northminister Baptist has to say about the subject!
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Brandon Jones
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IMO, most people who are living a homosexual lifestyle, or those who believe that is who they were created to be, probably don't share in the Bible's characterization of their behavior, e.g. being sin. I think that is an important starting point for all churches/followers of Christ to consider.
If that is to be our collective baseline in moving toward ministering and serving this group of people, then we should next consider the fact that Jesus didn't come to save us from BEHAVIOR he came to redeem hearts; behavior will hopefully follow, although all of us who have been redeemed will struggle with sin the rest of our lives. But when we as Christians make what someone DOES the most important thing instead of who they ARE (which is intensely loved by Christ ALREADY, hence his willing death for them) then shouldn't that alter our approach to them? Meaning, we see them for those already loved by Christ versus those who engage in, frankly, weird and disgusting behavior?
If that is to be our collective baseline in moving toward ministering and serving this group of people, then we should next consider the fact that Jesus didn't come to save us from BEHAVIOR he came to redeem hearts; behavior will hopefully follow, although all of us who have been redeemed will struggle with sin the rest of our lives. But when we as Christians make what someone DOES the most important thing instead of who they ARE (which is intensely loved by Christ ALREADY, hence his willing death for them) then shouldn't that alter our approach to them? Meaning, we see them for those already loved by Christ versus those who engage in, frankly, weird and disgusting behavior?
Well, that answers that.
So, he doesn't excuse homosexuality as much as he just shows his ignorance of the scriptures. I haven't seen so many Bible passages butchered since the last time an Arminian tried to explain why eternal security is wrong.
He doesn't come out and outright support homosexuality, but he does leave a strong impression that he wouldn't be very helpful to a homosexual who heard the Gospel and wanted to repent.
It sounds to me like he's more an Emergent. At one point, he says something the effect of, "the Bible may address it, but there's more to it than what is said on the page". There may be more to understanding why a person adopted this particular sin, but when the Bible calls something sin, it's sin whether it makes us comfortable or not.
I think that you hit the nail on the head. The SBC where it dates back a long time in local areas is a cultural center where friends meet.