mRNA?

[percho]

Edited to add: Is this even a logical thought?

I debated in my mind to ask this, in this forum or Creation vs Evolution forum and selected this because of views.

Does mRNA therapy alter the creation of man? As the understanding of the scientist increases, exactly how far could they go to the, "betterment," of the man, created in the image of the God.

Consider.

Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity,
And in sin my mother conceived me. Psalms 51:5 NKJV
For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, Romans 8:3 NKJV

“Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ John 3:7

“That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. John 3:6

Is sin genetic? Is the the scientist ultimate goal, to usurp, God?

And He said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you that you should not eat?”
Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”—
Genesis 3:11,22

 

[JonC]

I debated in my mind to ask this, in this forum or Creation vs Evolution forum and selected this because of views.

Does mRNA therapy alter the creation of man? As the understanding of the scientist increases, exactly how far could they go to the, "betterment," of the man, created in the image of the God.

Consider.

Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity,
And in sin my mother conceived me. Psalms 51:5 NKJV
For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, Romans 8:3 NKJV

“Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ John 3:7

“That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. John 3:6

Is sin genetic? Is the the scientist ultimate goal, to usurp, God?

And He said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you that you should not eat?”
Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”—
Genesis 3:11,22

Edited to add: Is this even a logical thought?

No. But this is because mRNA does not affect our DNA. Perhaps gene therapy may be another story?

That said, I have noticed most foods (all corn) is genetically modified.

So the question, if I understand correctly, is whether living things that have been genetically altered (bananas, oranges, apples, edible corn, green beans, watermelon, etc.) are an attempt to usurp or play God.

I do not believe so. The reason is God has given us minds to develop such things. The intent is not to usurp God but to benefit humanity (often by addressing needs, as with drought and pest resistant foods).

But at the same time I see a danger to usurp God in the area of cloning.

 

[percho]

No. But this is because mRNA does not affect our DNA. Perhaps gene therapy may be another story?

That said, I have noticed most foods (all corn) is genetically modified.

So the question, if I understand correctly, is whether living things that have been genetically altered (bananas, oranges, apples, edible corn, green beans, watermelon, etc.) are an attempt to usurp or play God.

I do not believe so. The reason is God has given us minds to develop such things. The intent is not to usurp God but to benefit humanity (often by addressing needs, as with drought and pest resistant foods).

But at the same time I see a danger to usurp God in the area of cloning.

Do not take this wrong, no ill intent meant.

From above: I do not believe so. The reason is God has given us minds to develop such things. The intent is not to usurp God but to benefit humanity (often by addressing needs, as with drought and pest resistant foods).

Consider had those seventy souls back in Canaan had been smarter and had studied more they would not have followed Joseph to Egypt and there would have been no Moses.

Their, "new," corn would brought them thru the, "drought".

 

[KenH]

Consider had those seventy souls back in Canaan had been smarter and had studied more they would not have followed Joseph to Egypt and there would have been no Moses.

Their, "new," corn would brought them thru the, "drought".

God is sovereign over all of his creation. Nothing happens unless He ordains it. This is not a game of checkers where man makes a move and then God makes a move, and on and on.

Man is not going to create or destroy anything unless it is ordained by God and is for His purposes.

 

[DaveXR650]

Does mRNA therapy alter the creation of man?

No. And the technology is already being used to develop cancer treatments that actually work. Relax

 

[JonC]

Do not take this wrong, no ill intent meant.

From above: I do not believe so. The reason is God has given us minds to develop such things. The intent is not to usurp God but to benefit humanity (often by addressing needs, as with drought and pest resistant foods).

Consider had those seventy souls back in Canaan had been smarter and had studied more they would not have followed Joseph to Egypt and there would have been no Moses.

Their, "new," corn would brought them thru the, "drought".

At the same time we have to consider that God uses men. How do you know that God did not answer the prayers of His children by providing those foods through men?

 

[Aaron]

Edited to add: Is this even a logical thought?

I debated in my mind to ask this, in this forum or Creation vs Evolution forum and selected this because of views.

Does mRNA therapy alter the creation of man? As the understanding of the scientist increases, exactly how far could they go to the, "betterment," of the man, created in the image of the God.

Consider.

Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity,
And in sin my mother conceived me. Psalms 51:5 NKJV
For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, Romans 8:3 NKJV

“Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ John 3:7

“That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. John 3:6

Is sin genetic? Is the the scientist ultimate goal, to usurp, God?

And He said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you that you should not eat?”
Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”—
Genesis 3:11,22

No, sin is not genetic.

However, man is not livestock to breed and manipulate and to use. Forced organ harvesting and human experimentation is an egregious and heinous evil. Was there really a need to have one's own cells grow viral spike proteins? If the proteins could be grown, why not grow them using cultured cells, and then inject them? The makers of the Novavax vaccine have done that, and it is apparently safer and a bit more effective than the mRNA jabs.

They are expected to get an EUA this month, but the FDA has been playing favorites the last couple of years. So we'll see.

But again, why have one's own cells manufacture the spike protein in the absence of necessity if not to experiment with mRNA technology?

 

[Reynolds]

No. But this is because mRNA does not affect our DNA. Perhaps gene therapy may be another story?

That said, I have noticed most foods (all corn) is genetically modified.

So the question, if I understand correctly, is whether living things that have been genetically altered (bananas, oranges, apples, edible corn, green beans, watermelon, etc.) are an attempt to usurp or play God.

I do not believe so. The reason is God has given us minds to develop such things. The intent is not to usurp God but to benefit humanity (often by addressing needs, as with drought and pest resistant foods).

But at the same time I see a danger to usurp God in the area of cloning.

Why did God command the Jews to not hybridize their seed or their livestock?

 

[percho]

And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure. Daniel 2:44,45

Does that kingdom take place on the inhabited earth see verses 38,39? Who will be ruling in that kingdom? Is it those spoken of in Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Does the following speak of the same world [inhabited earth]?
Heb 2:5 For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.

Who all, believes, mRNA jabs will be given during that period, on the inhabited earth?

 

[percho]

Why did God command the Jews to not hybridize their seed or their livestock?

The only word that came to mind was. Jenner Mr./Mrs.?

 

[percho]

Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.


Knowledge?

 

[Conan]

Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree, of which I commanded you that you should not eat?