My Timelines are Rubbish

[rockytopva]

I believe Isaac Newton's 2060 AD Christ's return date is closest. I had a poster confront me on this saying...

Ummmmmmmmmm, Newton hypothesized MANY THINGS which he discarded (i.e., HE REFUSED TO PUBLISH). So if you FOLLOWED Newton, you'd do the same, but instead you actually FOLLOW his adherents, which have intentionally or unintentionally DISOBEYED Newton.And so your purported 2060 is RUBBISH -- ACCORDING TO NEWTON HIMSELF!

Definition of rubbish - Definition of RUBBISH

1: useless waste or rejected matter :
2: something that is worthless or nonsensical

I believe Adam came about in 4300BC and the Millennial reign will come to an end in 3060AD. Giving man's reign on earth a period of 7,360 years. Total rubbish? Perhaps! But it is my closest pick based upon my studies! And to quote Isaac Newton....

"And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half. " - Daniel 12:7

From a folio cataloged as Yahuda MS 7.3g, f. 13v:

"So then the time times & half a time are 42 months or 1260 days or three years & an half, reckoning twelve months to a year & 30 days to a month as was done in the Calendar of the primitive year. And the days of short lived Beasts being put for the years of lived kingdoms, the period of 1260 days, if dated from the complete conquest of the three kings A.C. 800, will end A.C. 2060." - Isaac Newton

As Charlemagne was crowned king on December 25, 800 by Pope Leo the III so the day of Christ's coming will be on Christmas Day, 2060. If the rapture of the saints (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17) occurs seven years before the time of Christ's coming the date of the rapture 12.25 2053. However Isaac Newton notes

"It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner. This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons which God hath put into his own breast." - Isaac Newton

 

[rockytopva]

And here would be my picture of creation.... Total rubbish? Perhaps! It is merely my best bet from my studies....

Before the Big Bang there dwelt...

1. The God Head - Father, Son, and Holy Ghost
2. Three groups of angels...
___a. Michael - Strong Angels
___b. Gabriel - Wise Angels
___c. Lucifer - Worshiping angels
3. There may have been others, but the bible does not give the account.

And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: - Genesis 3:22

As in the previous scripture good and evil were known before the creation. There are probably long tales that could go along with this that I do not know of.
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I believe that the creation of this universe is in response to Lucifer's fall.

And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: - Revelation 12:4

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:- Isaiah 14:12

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. - Revelation 12

If E = mc2 then one can divide and say that m = E/c2. Therefore all of creation came into existence with the Fathers great Energy and Light... In which there are three varieties...

Natural E/c2... The sun is E/c2 in the form of plasma... The Earth is cooled E/c2.
Mental E/c2... Our ability to think comes from E/c2
Spiritual E/c2... Energy (Motivation, Love) / c2 (Faith, Hope, Charity, Joy)

so... Lets take the opposite of all that...

The opposite of m = E/c2 is n = z/d

Nothing (n) - That which outer space is made of between the celestial objects.
Absolute Zero (z) - The coldest it can get!
Darkness (d) - That which is devoid of light.

Natural z/d - Nothing! Space! Null and Void!
Mental z/d - Nothing!
Spiritual... z (Laziness, Apathy, Hate) / d (Fear, Despair, Greed, Sorrow).

It is my conviction that there are three spiritual extremes...

Spiritual light - Love, warmth, faith, hope, charity joy, goodness, peace
Spiritual darkness - Hate, cold, fear, depression, sorrow, greed, evil, war
The Flesh - Ego, perversion, filth, witchcraft, anger, strife, divisions, mysticism. Where does that fit? It is neither light or darkness!

I have heard that the flesh and the devil are so akin that it is hard to discern between the two of them....

And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. - Jude 1:6

I believe that Satan messes with mankind with two intents...

1. The longing for the warmth of a body
2. They desire to keep us from their old first estate.
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I believe that the creation occurred 15 billion years after the fall of Lucifer....

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. - Genesis 1:1

Space and mass - Nothing else

And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. - Genesis 1:2

Space and mass - Nothing else
Waters - The Galactic Center of the Milky Way is obscured by dark clouds. As this center can be observed with infrared light I can only assume this as H2O water. If it were dust particles could it be seen with infrared; God may have included dust particles in his definition of waters.

And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. - Genesis 1:3

As m = E/c2 so the mass dissociates into energy and light flowing out as plasma from a point of origins forming into what elements the Father willed it to.
*** I believe that 15 billion years transpired between Genesis 1:3-4***

And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. - Genesis 1:4

The first day has not occurred yet. By dividing the light from the darkness the earth is put in orbit around the sun, dividing the light from the darkness.

And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. - Genesis 1:5

Now we are ready for the first day and the seven day creation story... 15 billion years from the time that God said, "Let there be light!" Now for Genesis 1:6-8

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From there we have three earth ages...

1. The first earth age
2. The middle ages
3. The seven church ages

The first earth age...

The seven church ages...

The millennial reign - Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. - Revelation 20:6

Though the universe could be billions of years old I believe man’s reign on planet earth is only about 7,000 years.

 

[SGO]

Interesting and impressive charts but all speculation. You have yet to provide specific scripture that indicates the seven churches in Revelation 1-3 represent seven ages.
It all just "fits" in your posts.

 

[rockytopva]

Christ has said he comes as a thief ....

43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. - Matthew 24

Therefore, I believe, there are always great possibility of timelines being in error!

 

[rockytopva]

I believe if I were to get with the best and reconstruct a timeline... Still yet... There would be possibility for error and I like the way Newton summarized his 2060 AD prediction...

"It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner. This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons which God hath put into his own breast." - Isaac Newton

 

[rockytopva]

Timeline... So why do it?

1. They are interesting
2. They should show Christ's return as soon
3. They should help us discern directions we ought take in the time we have before us
4. They should invoke sound decision making. Having people sell their possessions due to timelines that could be in error can be most foolish.

I do believe, though, that we are in Laodicean times and the thing to do in this time is to stay passionate for God when others may be going lukewarm!

 

[timtofly]

If a time is 1000 years, then 2 times would be 2000 years, and half would be 500 years.

That seems to be the most simple math from Daniel to now.

This Newton formula takes an event in 800 and then adds 1260 years. Yet turning days into years is not relatable to turning 1260 into times, time, and half a time. Yes there is a mathematical time, times, and half a time in 1260, but what is the point?

Now the interesting point is that Newton is trying to remove date setting from happening by putting it hundreds of years into the future. Yet we are still 1000 years from being 3500 years removed from Daniel. And hundreds of date setting timelines still happened, despite Newton's efforts to the contrary.

Then arbitrarily 800 is supposed to be important based on a human, or group of humans? OK, Newton had an opinion.

God had an opinion, and took 6 days to create that opinion. How does 6 days relate to Daniel's 3500 years now that we are almost 294 years past March 31, 1727 since Newton died? BTW, 360 years is the time. 720 years is times and 180 is half a time. 360 is probably the time from when Newton thought the Second Coming would happen from his time. Newton lived 720 years after the turn of a century. 180° is a straight line, or a change from one direction to the opposite direction.

Most would agree that any thought not based on Scripture or one that contradicts Scripture would be rubbish. Many thoughts can get pretty interesting, even if they are rubbish.

 

[Salty]

K I S S = No Man knoweth the day or the Hour --- So simple!

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[Marooncat79]

88 Reason Jesus will return in 1988

 

[Salty]

88 Reason Jesus will return in 1988

and then he wrote

• (1989). The final shout: Rapture report 1989. Predicted that the Rapture would occur in 1989.
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• Whisenant, Edgar C. (1993). 23 reasons why a pre-tribulation rapture looks like it will occur on Rosh-Hashanah 1993. Predicted that the Rapture would occur in 1993.
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• Whisenant, Edgar C. (1994). And now the earth's destruction by fire, nuclear bomb fire. Prediction for 1994.

He was an interesting guy, I interviewed him on the radio about a month before the "supposed" rapture. Then I met him in person when he came to the Salt City for a speaking engagement . He was invited by the owner of the local Christian Bookstore.

Edgar went to be with the Lord 16 May 2001

Edgar C. Whisenant - Wikipedia

 

[Salty]

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