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Myanmar leans towards China

church mouse guy

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Myanmar has dozens of ethnic groups and a Muslim insurgency funded by international jihadis. Democracy does not work there. (We see too many ethnic groups bringing down our own freedom of speech, for example.) So the military grabbed control in order to restore stability. America has turned her back to Myanmar so Xi Jinping will attempt to extend communist influence.

Observations from YouTube Black Pigeon who lives in Tokyo and London:

 

Quantrill

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Myanmar has dozens of ethnic groups and a Muslim insurgency funded by international jihadis. Democracy does not work there. (We see too many ethnic groups bringing down our own freedom of speech, for example.) So the military grabbed control in order to restore stability. America has turned her back to Myanmar so Xi Jinping will attempt to extend communist influence.

Observations from YouTube Black Pigeon who lives in Tokyo and London:

I watched the complete video. I thought it was excellent and dead on. Diversity coupled with the Muslim goal was destroying Burma. For those who don't know what the Muslim goal is, it is to bring a country under Shariah Law in whatever country Islam exists.

The Burmese military has saved the country from civil war at the present. And this idea of creating democracy in Burma is forcing Burma toward turning to China.

And why shouldn't it. America's view of government, diversity, is killing it. Just as it will/has kill us. Good video.

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SavedByGrace

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Aung San Suu Kyi, who was the so called "leader" of this country for a few years, and who won the Nobel peace prize, did nothing to stop the murder of the Rohingya muslims! She is NOT fit for any position of authority, and should be jailed for her inaction that led to many being tortured and mudrered!
 

SavedByGrace

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For those who don't know what the Muslim goal is, it is to bring a country under Shariah Law in whatever country Islam exists

no doubt that this is wrong! But murder IS murder and cannot be condoned or excused in any way! The rise of the utterly demonic "islam", in the West, like here in the UK, and the US, where there are mega mosques in Bible-belt states, like Rutherford County, Tennessee, is a direct Righteous Judgement by God Almighty, especially for the ungodly state of the Church in these countries! Much worse still to come, now that Joe is in the driving seat.
 

Quantrill

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no doubt that this is wrong! But murder IS murder and cannot be condoned or excused in any way! The rise of the utterly demonic "islam", in the West, like here in the UK, and the US, where there are mega mosques in Bible-belt states, like Rutherford County, Tennessee, is a direct Righteous Judgement by God Almighty, especially for the ungodly state of the Church in these countries! Much worse still to come, now that Joe is in the driving seat.

Mosques found in the Bible Belt are the result of the Federal govt. forcing them on us on the basis of 'freedom of religion'.

The Fed. govt., like most, look at Islam as a religion. It is not a religion. It is a political body controlling all aspects of the Muslims life including his religion. It is able, as an enemy to any country where it exists, to be allowed into the country on the basis of religion. It then begins its work at placing the country under Shariah Law.

And so the U.S., because it loves it's 'diversity', allows Muslims to have seats in its government. Foolish. As I have said before, America is/has committed suicide.

It is most likely a judgement against a country for it's ignorance and stupidity in allowing Islam into the country in the first place. if the people of Tennessee had their way, the Mosque would be blown to kingdom come. It's the Federal govt. forcing it on the people of the State.

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Scott Downey

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Islam is a political religion and seeks dominance over the government and all the people must submit.
Similar can be said of Christian dominionism.
If you have to have religious dominion, I overwhelmingly desire Christian dominionism over Muslim dominionism for obvious reasons!

Forcing submission of the people to either one creates fake converts. God's ways are the best ways, which means you must be changed by God as in born again, coercion is fake news.
For now we have secular dominionism leaning towards accommodating Islamization into government because people are in rebellion against God and Christ.
 

SavedByGrace

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It is most likely a judgement against a country for it's ignorance and stupidity in allowing Islam into the country in the first place

while I agree with you here, what would happen if in muslim counrties, they would ban Christians and close all Churches? God does "use" evil for good, and there are many thousands of muslims who are turning to Jesus Christ as their personal Saviour. You speak of the "stupidity in allowing Islam into the country in the first place", true; but what about the many thousands of atheists, and immoral people, and those of other "faiths", like Buddhist, Sikhs, etc, who are just as bad as the muslims? As ALL these worship and promote false gods! the present POTUS has a thing about smelling the hair of little girls, and holding women rarther awkwardly! This last one also said some very disgusting things about women, especially is own daughter! Sin IS sin!
 

Scott Downey

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but this is what Calvinsim and Reformed theology teaches, with different terms!
How so?
God is the one who makes us born again, salvation is not of ourselves being the gift of God.
There is no coercion, no arm twisting, no force involved. God simply changes out hearts.
The old man is not consulted, the new man is a new creation.
The old creation did not consult with God over it's being created, and neither does the new creation in Christ.

The new creation is by the will of God according to His purposes and will, just like Ephesians 1 says.
We believe after hearing the Truth, because that is the will of God for us, and not the others who dont believe. God the Father has chosen to whom HE will reveal Christ within them.
Otherwise your salvation is just a random occurrence of chance, and God's kingdom is predetermined, and planned ahead of time.
 

SavedByGrace

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How so?
God is the one who makes us born again, salvation is not of ourselves being the gift of God.
There is no coercion, no arm twisting, no force involved. God simply changes out hearts.
The old man is not consulted, the new man is a new creation.
The old creation did not consult with God over it's being created, and neither does the new creation in Christ.

The new creation is by the will of God according to His purposes and will, just like Ephesians 1 says.
We believe after hearing the Truth, because that is the will of God for us, and not the others who dont believe.
Otherwise your salvation is just a random occurrence of chance, and God's kingdom is predetermined, and planned ahead of time.

Reformed theology teaches that humans do not have a "free will". The salvation of the "elect" has been predetermined even before the foundation of the world. God first "regenerates" the heart of the "elect", thereby "enabling" to call on Him for their salvation! This is totally unbiblical, and shows that humans are no more than machines, who are programmed to do things.
 

Scott Downey

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There is a big difference between spirit of a man, and the soul of a man

The mind of a man (as in his own thoughts of how things are, the flesh, and of the body) is often tied tighter to his soul that to his spirit.

But we are to be spiritually minded and focus on what God has done according to the Spirit, not think according to the flesh.

Think like this here, notice there is no mention of your choice, just His mercy. The power of God keeps you in your faith. It is why all things work to the good of them that love God, who are the called according to His purposes. You love God because He called you, of Him you are in Christ Jesus

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, 5 who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
 

SavedByGrace

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notice there is no mention of your choice

so WHY does the Bible say, "CHOOSE this day whom you will serve"? Joshua 24:15. And

Revelation 22:17, "The Spirit and the Bride say, “Come.” And let the one who hears say, “Come.” And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price"

COME is an invitation which can be accepted or refused!
 

Quantrill

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while I agree with you here, what would happen if in muslim counrties, they would ban Christians and close all Churches? God does "use" evil for good, and there are many thousands of muslims who are turning to Jesus Christ as their personal Saviour. You speak of the "stupidity in allowing Islam into the country in the first place", true; but what about the many thousands of atheists, and immoral people, and those of other "faiths", like Buddhist, Sikhs, etc, who are just as bad as the muslims? As ALL these worship and promote false gods! the present POTUS has a thing about smelling the hair of little girls, and holding women rarther awkwardly! This last one also said some very disgusting things about women, especially is own daughter! Sin IS sin!

Because the 'goal' of Islam is to subjugate the country it is in under Shariah Law. It is not a faith. It is a political movement with a religion. It is an invading army.

England has a terrible problem with Islam. England has allowed the Shariah courts to decide cases concerning Muslims. Foolish. England will eventually be Islamic or she will have to oust the Muslims. She has allowed them to much reign.

And the U.S. is prone to go down the same path.

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SavedByGrace

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Because the 'goal' of Islam is to subjugate the country it is in under Shariah Law. It is not a faith. It is a political movement with a religion. It is an invading army.

England has a terrible problem with Islam. England has allowed the Shariah courts to decide cases concerning Muslims. Foolish. England will eventually be Islamic or she will have to oust the Muslims. She has allowed them to much reign.

And the U.S. is prone to go down the same path.

Quantrill

God has His purposes
 

Scott Downey

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so WHY does the Bible say, "CHOOSE this day whom you will serve"? Joshua 24:15. And

Revelation 22:17, "The Spirit and the Bride say, “Come.” And let the one who hears say, “Come.” And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price"

COME is an invitation which can be accepted or refused!
Sorry it is not like that, those who come to Christ, God has granted they come, so it was not left up to the person, but the person that God grants to come to Christ will do so willingly.
Jesus did not reject these disciples and that is why they walked away, but He explains why they did.

Stick with scripture, your explanation is missing the details.
John 6:64-66
New King James Version
64 But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him.

65 And He said, “Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.”

66 From that time many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more.
 

Scott Downey

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Read Matthew 22, about the kingdom. Only those chosen by the Father are acceptable in the beloved, because only they are born again. Called means they heard the call, but they obviously were not worthy.
Matthew 22:8
Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding is ready, but those who were invited were not worthy.

11 “But when the king came in to see the guests, he saw a man there who did not have on a wedding garment. 12 So he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you come in here without a wedding garment?’ And he was speechless. 13 Then the king said to the servants, ‘Bind him hand and foot, take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

14 “For many are called, but few are chosen.”

Luke 20:34-36
New King James Version
34 Jesus answered and said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage.
35 But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage;
36 nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
 

SavedByGrace

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Read Matthew 22, about the kingdom. Only those chosen by the Father are acceptable in the beloved, because only they are born again. Called means they heard the call, but they obviously were not worthy.
Matthew 22:8
Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding is ready, but those who were invited were not worthy.

11 “But when the king came in to see the guests, he saw a man there who did not have on a wedding garment. 12 So he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you come in here without a wedding garment?’ And he was speechless. 13 Then the king said to the servants, ‘Bind him hand and foot, take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

14 “For many are called, but few are chosen.”

Luke 20:34-36
New King James Version
34 Jesus answered and said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage.
35 But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage;
36 nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.

so who does verse 10 speak of? " So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests". Who are these "bad", or as the Greek πονηρός has it, "wicked, evil, worthless", people! If the "good" here refer to the "elect", then who are these "bad" also invited to share the Kingdom?
 

Quantrill

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God has His purposes

God's purposes do not involve me fighting for the wrong side. If God uses the heathen for whatever purpose, it doesn't mean I side with them to be part of what God is doing. No, I contend with them on the basis of what I know is true about God.

Quantrill
 

SavedByGrace

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God's purposes do not involve me fighting for the wrong side. If God uses the heathen for whatever purpose, it doesn't mean I side with them to be part of what God is doing. No, I contend with them on the basis of what I know is true about God.

Quantrill

God's purposes mean that He does as He pleases, with whom He pleases, and when He pleases. As it says in

Psalm 135:6
"Whatever the Lord pleases, He does, in heaven and on earth, in the seas and all deeps.".

And Daniel 4:34-35

"At the end of the days I, Nebuchadnezzar, lifted my eyes to heaven, and my reason returned to me, and I blessed the Most High, and praised and honored him who lives forever, for his dominion is an everlasting dominion, and his kingdom endures from generation to generation; the inhabitants of the earth are accounted as nothing, and he does according to his will among the host of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none can stay his hand or say to him, “What have you done?”"
 
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