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New age lyrics???

Discussion in 'Music Ministry' started by Mike McK, Jul 12, 2006.

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  1. Mike McK

    Mike McK New Member

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    Recently, jch_singer posted a link to a website that claims that the following lyrics are "New Age Lyrics". I don't see what is "New Age" about them.

    Could someone please explain to me exactly what part of this is supposed to be "New Age"?

    Now Playing: Batdorf and Rodney - "Live at McCabe's Guitar Shop"
     
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  2. Bro Tony

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    Sorry Mike, I cant help you. New age is a theology. I see nothing theological in this song at all. How have we come to the place where desiring clean air, pure food, and natural beauty that God has provided as equal to new age. The new age theology is dangerous and when we make such statements in relation to songs like this we demonstrate to the world our ignorance.

    We wonder why they wont take us seriously.

    Bro Tony
     
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  3. Mike McK

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    Tony, that was my thought, too, but he insists that this is a new age propaganda piece.

    I don't see it either but I just thought maybe someone else could enlighten me.

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    #3 Mike McK, Jul 12, 2006
  4. jch-singer

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    I like the group Selah, are they a new age group? I know thay have new age lyrics.:type:
     
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  5. Mike McK

    Mike McK New Member

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    Irrelevant. You brought up the lyrics above. Why don't you explain to us how they're "new age" and what makes the song bad.

    Now PlayingBig Kahuna and the Copa Cat Pack - "Hawaiian Swing"
     
    #5 Mike McK, Jul 12, 2006
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    Quote:
    They took all the trees and put 'em in a tree museum
    And then they charged all the poeple twenty-five bucks just to see 'em
    Don't it always seem to go
    That you don't know what you've got till it's gone
    They paved paradise and put up a parking lot

    Hey farmer, farmer, put away your DDT now
    Give me spots on my apples but leave me the birds and the bees, please
    Don't it always seem to go
    That you don't know what you've got till it's gone
    They paved paradise and put up a parking lot
    I'm very sorry, but what in the world does this song have to do with "clean air, pure food, and natural beauty that God has provided"?

    Excuse me for bringing God into this. God isn't mentioned anywhere in this part of the song. So, how can you make this statement QUOTE:"...How have we come to the place where desiring clean air, pure food, and natural beauty that God has provided as equal to new age."

    My next question is, Why is this earth called paradise in the song? I'm sorry but even a baby Christian should be able to tell that this isn't paradise. Since when does paradise/heaven have a parking lot?

    IMHO this song sounds like, A tree huging pansy that wants to save the earth.


    I'm sure this isn't the whole of the song. But I don't see it improving much.:D
     
    #6 paulsfocus, Jul 12, 2006
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    Great Lyricist and you people better give her credit!!!

    Joni Mitchell is a legitimate artist and to the 7th power for goodness sakes give her credit for her work and quit bantering it around as if it was written as a new age freak ..she is extremely gifted.

    Mck you should know better you like to brag at what you are listening too and then give credit to the artist ..you better get your act together!


    I will protect her!http://www.abandonhope.shetland.co.uk/RockClips/Joni_M_BYT.rm

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    #7 ASLANSPAL, Jul 12, 2006
  8. Mike McK

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    So then, you don't believe that God created the natural world around us?

    I happen to live on the Chesapeake Bay and have a front rown seat to sunset over the Bay every night. Brother, I'm here to tell you that's God's work on display!

    That's what is commonly known as a figure of speech.

    I've called the Eastern Shore "Paradise" many times in an attempt to describe it's beauty. I know that it isn't really paradise.

    Lousiana is known as "Sportsman's Paradise" in an attempt to describe the wealth of hunting and fishing opportunities. They know that it isn't really paradise.

    John Prine described Muhlenburg County as "Paradise", to describe happy memories of his childhood. I've been there and it ain't. He knows that, too.

    Glenn Frey described Laurel Canyon as "paradise" to refer to it's beauty and seclusion, but it was just a figure of speech.

    But are the lyrics "New Age"?

    It doesn't. A big yellow taxi takes her old man away. But that's not the point. It isn't a New Age song.

    By the way, there's an update. Since I posted this, the person who made this claim has admitted that he lied about what he said, so I guess it's really a moot point.

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  9. tinytim

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    I'm not saying I believe it has new age lyrics, but here may be a reason some say it does:

    It is guilt by association..
    The song has an environmentalist flavor to it.
    Most new agers are environmentalists... believe in reincarnation, mother goddess, mother earth, mother nature... etc...
    Wicca is a environmentalist religion.

    see it? New age = environmentalism
    One of the four elements of wicca is "earth"

    New agers want to become 1 with nature..
    So when Amy Grant sings of protecting the Earth.. some associate it with New Agers....

    As for me, I associate it more with democrats!
     
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  10. Ransom

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    paulsfocus said:

    Excuse me for bringing God into this. God isn't mentioned anywhere in this part of the song. So, how can you make this statement QUOTE:"...How have we come to the place where desiring clean air, pure food, and natural beauty that God has provided as equal to new age."

    Um. Who created that natural beauty again? You don't have to eat organic granola, hug trees and worship Gaia to be sorry that man pollutes God's creation.

    My next question is, Why is this earth called paradise in the song? I'm sorry but even a baby Christian should be able to tell that this isn't paradise. Since when does paradise/heaven have a parking lot?

    It's called hyperbole. Look it up.
     
    #10 Ransom, Jul 13, 2006
  11. standingfirminChrist

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    Any song that is giving a picture of saving the earth and does not mention God in it at all. This song is new age through and through.

    The Bible says the elements of this earth are going to melt away with a fervent heat, yet we have people hugging trees, kissing whales, and denying the Word of God.

    Love not the world, neither the things of the world. If any man be a friend of the world, he is the enemy of God.
     
    #11 standingfirminChrist, Jul 13, 2006
  12. jch-singer

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    Here is the BIG answer that you have been wanting, those lyrics do not line up with Ephesians 5:19. :thumbs:
     
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  13. Mike McK

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    Neither does "She'll Be Coming 'Round the Mountain", but that doesn't make it "New Age".

    Did you notice my post above, where I was willing to let it drop?

    However, since you chose to bring it up again, can you tell us what is new age about the song or can't you?
     
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  14. Mike McK

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    How is the song "new age"?

    Where I live, there is a lot of development going on. When I first moved there fifteen years ago, it was beautiful. Beautiful woodlands, wide, open meadows, and you could see the stars at night.

    Now, there are housing developments all over the place, strip malls, crime, heavy traffic, light pollution, etc.

    Am I "New Age" because I believe that we did not handle this well, but should have found an alternative to the encroaching development?

    Is it "New Age" for me to be mad about what man has done to God's creation?

    I don't see how that equates to someone not wanting chemicals on her apples being "New Age".
     
    #14 Mike McK, Jul 13, 2006
  15. jch-singer

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    Look brother Mike, I myself do not like "new age" music but that is just me, and when I have kids I will teach them to to sing, "The B-I-B-L-E yes thats the book for me, I stand up on the word of God the B-I-B-L-E", and not some silly "She'll Be Coming 'Round The Mountain" and I don't care if the song is new age, old age, any age, if it does not line up with the word God then it is wrong.:type:
     
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  16. Mike McK

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    That's fine, but this is not new age music. New Age Music is instrumental. Think John Tesh or Yanni.

    If you're going to claim that these lyrics are New Age, then you have a responsibility to demonstrate that and explain how they are "New Age".

    So far, you've refused to do so and I have to believe that it's because you know that they aren't.

    Do you remember when you promised us that you wouldn't lie anymore?

    For you to claim that this song is "New Age" when you know that it isn't is just as dishonest as the lies you admitted to telling in the other thread.
     
    #16 Mike McK, Jul 13, 2006
  17. jch-singer

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    I'm not saying that the lyrics are new age, I'm pointing out that they are wrong, and I don't care what age they are. I'm just wanting to know, do you think the lyrics are new age? :type:
     
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  18. Mike McK

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    Not true.

    This whole argument is based on the statement that you linked to and affirmed:


    By posting this statement and agreeing with it, clearly you called the song "new age".

    In this thread, post # 15, when asked what the song was about, you replied:

    Clearly, you're calling the song "new age".

    So, clearly, we see that your promise to stop lying and tell the truth didn't last long.
     
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  19. rbell

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    Conclusion: Any song that does not specifically mention God:

    "Happy Birthday"
    "A-B-C's"
    "Pop Goes the Weasel"
    "B-I-N-G-O"
    "Three Blind Mice"

    ...is new age and sinful.

    Now THAT'S a riot.
     
    #19 rbell, Jul 13, 2006
  20. tinytim

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    Do you think there may be a misunderstanding to what new age is?
    Some may here the word new, and be associating it with contemporary..

    Maybe we can define what you think new age is?
     
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