New apostasy

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

A new apostasy is taking over Christiandom by storm.

Its proponents are the countless Wednesday Crucifixion of Christ, cults.

Quasi scholars do the thinking for everyone enthralled by their satanic dogmas which range from Arianism and Pellagianism to anti-Paulism and Crossanianism.

They are the final spoilers of the Seventh Day Sabbath truth of the Scriptures. They leave behind a wasteland of ignorance and arrogance. Their doctrines throttle the earth and poison as with arsenic, DDT and radioactive fallout, every little remnant community of true saints. The stench of their beliefs envelopes the globe like a wet blanket the face of the murderer's victim.

God be merciful to us your little Jacob worms.

 

[wpe3bql]

Please give us some very specific and verifiable documentation from reputable evangelical sources to back up the actual claims that you've made in your OP.

I don't see any specific NT passage that states that your concept of keeping the sabbath as a direct indicator of your so-called "New Apostasy."

Please supply us with very specific NT book, chapter and verse citations that deal with your concept of sabbath keeping as being indicative of what you designate as a "New Apostasy."

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

Please give us some very specific and verifiable documentation from reputable evangelical sources to back up the actual claims that you've made in your OP.

I don't see any specific NT passage that states that your concept of keeping the sabbath as a direct indicator of your so-called "New Apostasy."

Please supply us with very specific NT book, chapter and verse citations that deal with your concept of sabbath keeping as being indicative of what you designate as a "New Apostasy."

Obviously you do not understand a thing about my OP

Re:
~~I don't see any specific NT passage that states that your concept of keeping the sabbath as a direct indicator of your so-called "New Apostasy."~~

I deny having 'conceptualised' ~~keeping of the sabbath as a direct indicator~~ of the "New Apostasy". I stated much like the opposite.

 

[david.dowty]

Is crossanianism a word. The rest of this seems like non specific rambling. I also noticed this was posted on several other forums. Seems like your trying throw this out to a bunch people to see if it makes sense.

 

[david.dowty]

My only real response would be its belief in Jesus as savior that salvation comes by, so what apostasy is there. I only am hearing disagreement.

 

[wpe3bql]

Obviously you do not understand a thing about my OP

You are right, I do not understand a thing about your OP.

Moreover I believe it's safe to assume that the vast majority of other BB readers don't either.

More than likely, they've grown tired of reading your posts that simply go on and on about your very questionable brand of so-called seventh-day-sabbatarism that they don't even bother to read your posts at all, or they've put you on their "IGNORE" list--something I probably will do in the very near future.

You have yet to convince me that your concept of what clearly was NOT the practice of the vast majority of NT Christians is still valid today. If those Christians back then, many of which were direct recipients of the letters of Paul, Peter, John and Jude, didn't practice your brand of sabbatarianism, then please tell us why we should.

 

[Crabtownboy]

There is nothing rational in the OP to understand.

It is rather like the wailing of the wind on a cold and stormy night.

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

There is nothing rational in the OP to understand.

It is rather like the wailing of the wind on a cold and stormy night.

The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge, illustrated.

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

You are right, I do not understand a thing about your OP.

Moreover I believe it's safe to assume that the vast majority of other BB readers don't either.

More than likely, they've grown tired of reading your posts that simply go on and on about your very questionable brand of so-called seventh-day-sabbatarism that they don't even bother to read your posts at all, or they've put you on their "IGNORE" list--something I probably will do in the very near future.

You have yet to convince me that your concept of what clearly was NOT the practice of the vast majority of NT Christians is still valid today. If those Christians back then, many of which were direct recipients of the letters of Paul, Peter, John and Jude, didn't practice your brand of sabbatarianism, then please tell us why we should.

The OP is not about 'my brand' of anything. It could be about your brand of anti- '~so-called seventh-day-sabbatarianism' that probably nobody don't even bother to read.

Please put me on your 'ignore-list' the sooner the better.

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

Is crossanianism a word. The rest of this seems like non specific rambling. I also noticed this was posted on several other forums. Seems like your trying throw this out to a bunch people to see if it makes sense.

'~non specific rambling~' . . . can't you read: specific, WC cults' satanic dogmas?

Say whatever you say; what you say is your best, said ---in your case, '~non specific rambling~'.

 

[david.dowty]

'~non specific rambling~' . . . can't you read: specific, WC cults' satanic dogmas?

Say whatever you say; what you say is your best, said ---in your case, '~non specific rambling~'.

Okay Gerhard

Here's the problem with your post. In clear writing, you address a certain topic, then progress on to more specific thoughts. As you have written it, you are addressing the minutia of a subject before introducing everyone into what in the world your talking about.
Okay. You want to talk about WC cults' satanic dogmas. First lets spell out who these WC cults you talk about are. Then let's focus in on what these dogmas are that are drenching the world like a wet blanket. If it is of paramount importance as you act like it is maybe pump the brakes and build a little framework before denouncing us for not understanding you. I would think that would be needed if wanted to help anyone.
You need to CLEARLY establish some base facts before assuming you are talking to a group of like minded people and throwing out some mildly provocative statements.
For all we know you might just be another Charles Taze Russell or Ellen G White of the 21st century, inventing your own doctrine draw a line between us and them. I find it suspicious you aren't identifying your own beliefs more clearly before launching into this weird, esoteric diatribe. Don't take offense when you are not understood. Ask your self if you have clearly and concisely stated your points before taking the offense with your audience.
Lastly, what does Jacob worm even mean, and where in the world did you dredge that up. Are these things public thought or specific to your own mind?

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

what does Jacob worm even mean, and where in the world did you dredge that up. Are these things public thought or specific to your own mind?

Isaiah 41:14
Genesis 25:27
Psalm 22:6

. . . in that order

 

[Walter]

you are right, i do not understand a thing about your op.

Moreover i believe it's safe to assume that the vast majority of other bb readers don't either.

More than likely, they've grown tired of reading your posts that simply go on and on about your very questionable brand of so-called seventh-day-sabbatarism that they don't even bother to read your posts at all, or they've put you on their "ignore" list--something i probably will do in the very near future.

You have yet to convince me that your concept of what clearly was not the practice of the vast majority of nt christians is still valid today. if those christians back then, many of which were direct recipients of the letters of paul, peter, john and jude, didn't practice your brand of sabbatarianism, then please tell us why we should.

exactly!!!

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

exactly!!!

How instructive . . . .

<<. . . and when necessary, use words.>>

 

[Walter]

How instructive . . . .

<<. . . and when necessary, use words.>>

How about addressing the quote to which I was referring: 'if those Christians back then, many of which were direct recipients of the letters of paul, peter, john and jude, didn't practice your brand of sabbatarianism, then please tell us why we should. One problem (and there are many) with participating on any thread you start on this board is that you rarely answer questions that are asked of you. I am asking you again to answer the question.

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

exactly!!!

The man ---wpe3bql View Post--- asked me a question I do not understand because to me it 1) makes no sense linguistically; and 2) sounds completely irrelevant logically; and 3) appears to be purely insulting intentionally.

As an understandable result, I cannot answer him anything.

On this unintelligible post of what'shisname, you, <Walter>, gave the brilliant comment: <<Exactly>>

Now I --GE-- with all due respect, am not a Doctor in Divinity like you are. I simply am able ONLY to give comment when words are spoken which I can understand, and which have to do with the TOPIC, in this case, with the following . . .

'A new apostasy is taking over Christiandom by storm.
Its proponents are the countless Wednesday Crucifixion of Christ, cults.
Quasi scholars do the thinking for everyone enthralled by their satanic dogmas which range from Arianism and Pellagianism to anti-Paulism and Crossanianism.
They are the final spoilers of the Seventh Day Sabbath truth of the Scriptures. They leave behind a wasteland of ignorance and arrogance. Their doctrines throttle the earth and poison as with arsenic, DDT and radioactive fallout, every little remnant community of true saints. The stench of their beliefs envelopes the globe like a wet blanket the face of the murderer's victim.
God be merciful to us your little Jacob worms.'

Please pay attention to the words I have now emphasized. WCs are not Sabbath believing Christians IN THE LEAST. So my <<brand of sabbatarianism>>---if I had anything like it--- cannot be compared with theirs at all; and their <<brand of sabbatarianism,>> cannot be compared with anything ANYWHERE IN THE SCRIPTURES for that matter.

Kindly next time you ask me and expect me to answer your learnedness, use words?

Thanks in advance.

GE

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

Francis of Assisi,

“Preach the Gospel at all times and when necessary use words.”

Francis of Assisi was a Roman Catholic who never in his life preached the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Jeasus' Gospel use WORDS everywhere, and specifically use the word "speak" and or "said" more than any other word!

Jesus Christ's NAME according to this very Gospel of Jesus Christ preached to all the world even to this very day, is, "THE WORD".

But this do give the Roman Catholics and Francis credit for, that they never, nearly preached or used words or taught dogmas as ungodly and un-Christian and stone-dead tripe as preach and teach WCs with uncountable framed and framing words.