News: Brand Name Preachers Have No Integrity

Brand Name Preachers Have No Integrity

"·Readers pay exorbitant prices for the books of Christian superstars, never knowing that the volumes are actually written by no-name "ghosts." Among the big names pulling this stunt: Hal Lindsey, Chuck Colson, Jim Bakker, Billy Graham, Oral Roberts, Benny Hinn, John Ankerberg, Hank Hanegraaff, David Jeremiah and Jerry Falwell." Texe Marre

References:
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/9te/9te026.html
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/graham.html
http://www.webprowire.com/summaries/32914.html
http://www.counterpunch.org/alexgraham.html
http://cnt10.tripod.com/graham.htm
Link to the Maranatha Prophecy Page

*** Eaglewings, if you have a point, please be kind enough to make it. But we'd like to ask you to keep it to a brief paragraph, and provide links (as I have edited your lenghty post above and left your links for a reference). *** Barnabas, BB Administrator

[ October 24, 2002, 11:08 AM: Message edited by: The Squire ]

 

Smoke Eater I take my hat off to you just like a puff of smoke you are full of hot air and see only what you want to see.

You conveniently twisted the truth and ignored the fact that Billy Graham is a liar and he did make disparaging remarks about the Jews and the New York Times reported the following:

It seemed impossible, when H. R. Haldeman's White House diaries came out in 1994, that the Rev. Billy Graham could once have joined with President Richard M. Nixon in discussing the "total Jewish domination of the media." Could Mr. Graham, the great American evangelist, really have said the nation's problem lies with "satanic Jews," as Mr. Nixon's aide recorded?Mr. Graham's sterling reputation as a healer and bridge-builder was so at odds with Mr. Haldeman's account that Jewish groups paid little attention, especially because he denied the remarks so strongly."Those are not my words," Mr. Graham said in a public statement in May 1994. "I have never talked publicly or privately about the Jewish people, including conversations with President Nixon, except in the most positive terms."

That was the end of the story, it seemed, until two weeks ago, when the tape of that 1972 conversation in the Oval Office was made public by the National Archives. Three decades after it was recorded, the North Carolina preacher's famous drawl is tinny but unmistakable on the tape, denigrating Jews in terms far stronger than the diary accounts."They're the ones putting out the pornographic stuff," Mr. Graham said on the tape, after agreeing with Mr. Nixon that left-wing Jews dominate the news media. The Jewish "stranglehold has got to be broken or the country's going down the drain," he continued, suggesting that if Mr. Nixon were re-elected, "then we might be able to do something."Finally, Mr. Graham said that Jews did not know his true feelings about them."I go and I keep friends with Mr. Rosenthal at The New York Times and people of that sort, you know," he told Mr. Nixon, referring to A. M. Rosenthal, then the newspaper's executive editor. "And all — I mean, not all the Jews, but a lot of the Jews are great friends of mine, they swarm around me and are friendly to me because they know that I'm friendly with Israel. But they don't know how I really feel about what they are doing to this country. And I have no power, no way to handle them, but I would stand up if under proper circumstances."

So if Billy Graham lied about his remarks about the Jews what else is he lying about?

And since I did my homework so should you before you open your mouth. Why don't you check out the references and see all that has been stated about Billy Graham is true?

[ October 14, 2002, 06:43 PM: Message edited by: eaglewings ]

 

Johnv my comment to you is check your facts first before you open your mouth because your belief is wrong.

On March 17, 2002 The New York Times factualy reported BILLY GRAHAM RESPONDS TO LINGERING ANGER OVER 1972 REMARKS ON JEWS and stated that he lied as per the above quotes from it.

As for Ned Graham the facts are as reported by By Karen L. Willoughby for WORLD - East Gates was established in 1989 by Ruth Graham, journalist David Aikman, Bible smuggler Doug Sutphen, and others. Ned Graham, then 33 years old, became president in 1991. Under his leadership, the organization has become financially viable.
In 1997, the last year for which complete figures are available, East Gates took in $2.3 million. Nearly $1 million of that came from the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, and thus indirectly from Mrs. Moxley and other BGEA donors. (BGEA has since decreased its funding; a BGEA source told WORLD that the organization gave $60,000 in 1998 and budgeted the same amount in 1999.)
East Gates over the years has received most of its income from other organizations-some of which give generously because of the Graham name. The American Bible Society, another recipient of Mrs. Moxley's contributions, has given East Gates $825,000. The Richard and Helen DeVos Foundation gave $1 million in 1996. Both cite the Billy Graham connection as one reason for the sizeable grants.
Mr. Graham's salary in 1998 was about $76,000, and he received a tax-free housing allowance of more than $36,000. No one has alleged financial impropriety, but many associates of Mr. Graham have expressed concern about his personal difficulties and their impact on East Gates.
Carol Graham, in a Nov. 10, 1998, affidavit filed in court, accused her husband of infidelity, domestic violence, and drug and alcohol abuse. Ned and Carol Graham were then members of Grace Community Church in Auburn, Wash., where Mr. Graham had been an elder and associate pastor. Church elders met with him for two hours in mid-December 1998. They discussed not only the accusations in the divorce complaint but also Mr. Graham's rare church attendance during the preceding three years, according to Bruce Ker, chairman of the church's elder board.
The elders prescribed a course of counsel and discipline aimed at reconciliation and accountability. Mr. Graham balked, claiming his wife had lied and the pastors had unfairly sided with her. Accusing the elders of using improper procedures, he left the church. The church subsequently stopped supporting East Gates (at $500 a month), revoked Mr. Graham's ministerial license, and told him to stop using the title "Rev." since he had never been ordained. (The divorce suit was settled in mediation; both sides agreed to have the case record sealed.)
Mr. Graham chose to be interviewed by WORLD only through written questions and answers. Questioned regarding reports that he had undergone treatment for an alcohol-related condition, Mr. Graham wrote, "I took Board-approved time away in June of 1998."

While Christianity Today reported Ned has not officially communicated with his donors about his personal difficulties, but a December East Gates fund-raising letter included a note from his father saying that "Ruth and I are proud of and grateful to God for our son Ned." East Gates has distributed 2 million Bibles to Christians in China, Billy Graham said, encouraging Christians to "back this unique and effective ministry."
"Our family is in the best position to understand these issues, and Ned has our full confidence and support," Billy and Ruth Graham said in a letter published in Christianity Today.

 

Good people are not hypocrites. They don't say one thing in public and another thingin private? They don't make disparaging remarks about God's people, the Jews. They don't stonewall their donors about their total compensation.

Where was Franklin on September 11, 2002? In Alaska killing innocent animals!

 

Ned Graham loses board members, the privilege of the term "Reverend," his wife of almost 20 years-and quits a financial watchdog association
By Karen L. Willoughby http://www.worldmag.com/world/issue/11-06-99/national_1.asp
in Puyallup, Wash. - Thelma Moxley, 79, of Sunriver, Ore., is a faithful donor who says she gives to ministries "as to the Lord." The retired secretary, widow of a carpenter, says she carefully budgets to give all she can from her limited income to the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association (BGEA), the American Bible Society, other groups, and her church.
"I believe in Billy Graham's ministry, and the others," Mrs. Moxley said. "I trust they'll add the little I can give to what others give, so that together we can do more than any of us could do alone."
Trust is the operative word. It's up to a ministry's board of directors to make sure the trust is deserved. To help such boards and ministry leaders keep faith with the Mrs. Moxleys of the Christian world-and to head off a threatened government crackdown-the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability (ECFA) was formed 20 years ago. Member organizations voluntarily subscribe to seven "standards of responsible stewardship," including a 12-part fundraising standard.
"By law, [a ministry's] board of directors is responsible to oversee management," said Brewster Kopp, president and chairman of Stewardship Group, an organization that aids Christian nonprofits. "There are many not-for-profit organizations where the board is not doing what it should."
Does East Gates Ministries International fit that category? Within the last year it saw a string of board members and staff leave. The departures began soon after the wife of East Gates President Nelson E. "Ned" Graham, youngest son of Billy and Ruth Graham, sued her husband for divorce a year ago. Early this year, East Gates quietly resigned from the ECFA.
"These are red flags," Mr. Kopp said.
East Gates is located about an hour's drive southeast of Seattle, below the snow-covered glacial fields of Mount Rainier. Its post-office box address is Sumner; its street address is Puyallup. The organization underwrites the production and distribution of Bibles in China (2 million so far, according to Mr. Graham) in cooperation with the China Christian Council and Amity Printing Company. It has built structures for 20 Chinese churches, according to Ned Graham, or about five according to a former East Gates executive. It has helped Chinese pastors to receive training in Singapore, provided high-tech equipment to seminaries in China, and sent money to flood-damaged churches.
East Gates was established in 1989 by Ruth Graham, journalist David Aikman, Bible smuggler Doug Sutphen, and others. Ned Graham, then 33 years old, became president in 1991. Under his leadership, the organization has become financially viable.
In 1997, the last year for which complete figures are available, East Gates took in $2.3 million. Nearly $1 million of that came from the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, and thus indirectly from Mrs. Moxley and other BGEA donors. (BGEA has since decreased its funding; a BGEA source told WORLD that the organization gave $60,000 in 1998 and budgeted the same amount in 1999.)
East Gates over the years has received most of its income from other organizations-some of which give generously because of the Graham name. The American Bible Society, another recipient of Mrs. Moxley's contributions, has given East Gates $825,000. The Richard and Helen DeVos Foundation gave $1 million in 1996. Both cite the Billy Graham connection as one reason for the sizeable grants.
Mr. Graham's salary in 1998 was about $76,000, and he received a tax-free housing allowance of more than $36,000. No one has alleged financial impropriety, but many associates of Mr. Graham have expressed concern about his personal difficulties and their impact on East Gates.
Carol Graham, in a Nov. 10, 1998, affidavit filed in court, accused her husband of infidelity, domestic violence, and drug and alcohol abuse. Ned and Carol Graham were then members of Grace Community Church in Auburn, Wash., where Mr. Graham had been an elder and associate pastor. Church elders met with him for two hours in mid-December 1998. They discussed not only the accusations in the divorce complaint but also Mr. Graham's rare church attendance during the preceding three years, according to Bruce Ker, chairman of the church's elder board.
The elders prescribed a course of counsel and discipline aimed at reconciliation and accountability. Mr. Graham balked, claiming his wife had lied and the pastors had unfairly sided with her. Accusing the elders of using improper procedures, he left the church. The church subsequently stopped supporting East Gates (at $500 a month), revoked Mr. Graham's ministerial license, and told him to stop using the title "Rev." since he had never been ordained. (The divorce suit was settled in mediation; both sides agreed to have the case record sealed.)
Mr. Graham chose to be interviewed by WORLD only through written questions and answers. Questioned regarding reports that he had undergone treatment for an alcohol-related condition, Mr. Graham wrote, "I took Board-approved time away in June of 1998."
In response to a question about alleged involvement with a woman who was not his wife, Mr. Graham wrote, "During our marriage and before the divorce I had never been alone in a woman's home or apartment and had never been alone in my home with any woman other than my wife. To directly answer your implied question-I was faithful to my wife for 18 years without exception." At the time of the divorce filing, Ned and Carol Graham had been married for 19 years and 2H months. They have two sons, ages 11 and 13.
WORLD gave Mr. Graham an opportunity to amend his answer. An aide replied by email: "Please very carefully note that Mr. Graham's answers were factually correct."
In response to a question about his current church affiliation, Mr. Graham responded, "I am attending another fellowship," without naming it. The bylaws of East Gates require church membership.
When asked about his use of the title "Rev.," which is by tradition reserved for those who have been ordained, Mr. Graham wrote in September, "I never personally used the title Reverend and East Gates no longer uses the title Reverend in reference to me." But a 1997 letter he wrote to members of Congress is signed "Rev. Ned Graham." The East Gates website at least until mid-October included a photograph of Mr. Graham holding a Bible, with the photo captioned, "Rev. Ned Graham." (The site has since been changed; "President" replaced "Rev.")