News: GOP takes total power

Does everyone in the USA equate Republican with Christian and Democrat with other?

Respectfully,

Jim

 

Not me Jim. I think the Democrats are far more Christian in practice than the environment-destroying, business/dollar-worshipping, poor-ignoring Republicans. But that's just me.

Joshua
(Who lost faith in the American electorate when they elected a semi-literate frat. boy, and now is sitting staring at the newspaper in disbelief.)

[ November 06, 2002, 02:25 PM: Message edited by: Rev. Joshua ]

 

What have the Dem's ever done to help poor people?

Throw money at them? That's great and all, but what practical way out of poverty does that offer?

I don't think it does but that it just encourages poverty. Look at what JBJ's Great Society did to our inner cities.

Go into the Grays Ferry neighborhood of Philly or North Philly or Camden, N.J. or Atlantic City and see what Section 8 housing has done.

What have Dem's done to actually get people out of poverty?

Sigh...et tu, Joshua?

[ November 06, 2002, 12:55 PM: Message edited by: Smoke_Eater ]

 

Personally, I'm thrilled.

I think the Dem's learned the hard way last night that the demonization of Republicans and snide little cartoons of Bush kicking old ladies down the stairs aren't a substitute for ideas.

If they're smart, they'll realize that they can no longer say, "Vote for us because the Republicans want to starve old people" or some such idiocy.

I think the tide has turned (and I think a significant part of it can be traced to that boorish, classless Paul Wellstone debacle) and that now they're going to have to say, "Vote for us" and define their vision.

Now, let's get out there and starve some old people!

 

I don't think either party has it together. The memebers mostly just talk about how little the other party has done, rather than coming up with anything for themselves to do.

But Jim, many Christian Americans (I won't expand it to all Americans) do insist that Christians vote Republican. By that I don't mean that they excommunicate you, per se, if you don't vote for a Republican, but the standard rhetoric seems to be, "Be a Christian! Vote Republican!" It's about the "Christian values" the Republican party embodies. Uh-huh. But you read it all over Christian boards, "Make a Christian vote," which seems to be code for "Vote Republican."

Stuff and nonsense.

 

I prefer that neither party have a 2/3 majority in the house. My reasoning is that it promotes legislation in moderation.

 

"It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. It is better to trust in the LORD thatn to put confidence in princes."
- Psalm 118:8-9

"Do not put your trust in princes, nor in a son of man, in whom there is no help. His spirit departs, he returns to his earth; in that very day his plans perish. Happy is he who has the God of Jacob for his help, whose hope is in the LORD his God. Who made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them; who keeps truth forever, who executes justice for the oppressed, who gives food to the hungry."
- Psalm 146:3-7a

[ November 06, 2002, 01:17 PM: Message edited by: Rev. G ]

 

I am happy also and love seing the grimacing leftist media declare the Republicans have taking control of the Senate.

A word of caution however...Bill Crystal once said that in America there are 2 major parties, The Evil Party (Democrats) and The Stupid Party (Republicans). The Republicans seem to do better as a guerilla party and in the past when in control of Congress seemed not be able to accomplish anything because they didn't want to look mean spiritied. The Democrats are notorious for demonizing the Republicans (Such as calling Bush a frat boy ) as antiblack, destroyers of the enviroment, hate the poor BUT when the Republicans hit back the Demos cry look how mean the Republicans are! I hope this time they ignore the whiny News media and the Demos attacks. The Republican party needs to uphold Jeffersonian philosophy of government rather than compromise.

[ November 06, 2002, 01:20 PM: Message edited by: Kiffin ]

 

I don't agree with either party on all issues and tend to side with democrates for being a bit more compassionate. That said, I have to vote pro life and tend to go Republican for that cause.

 

I did not intend to start a revolution. My question was sincere. In Canada, a lot of people equate the Conservative party with conservative theology and the liberal party with wide-openness.

I grew up with socialism, but I sure don't go along with all that that party has done lately. I just like the idea of social responsibility alongside good government.

I don't get involved in USA politics, but they do affect Canada in so many ways, whether we like it or not.

In Canada, many of our most effective governments have been minority governments. Each party must respect the opinions of others. I liked Barry Goldwater and Jimmy Carter, so not sure where I would vote in the USA.

I don't see many bright lights on the horizon in either country. I know that after the fact, when something goes wrong, no one voted for that person.

Cheers, and God make America strong.

Jim

 

Bill Clinton really does embody Christianity for me.

I am very happy that the Republicans won the Senate, primarily because the Libs were holding up the Judicial Nominee process. If Bush can get some solid, law interpreting(vs inventing) judges in the vacant seats as well as the Supreme Court, I believe this country will be able to hold back the tide of socialist policies that continue to erode our society.

To me, the federal court system seems to have a knack of introducing laws that would never be passed in Congress. Roe vs Wade and Affirmative Action are the most notable in my mind.

Other than that, I say accelerate the tax cuts, cut spending, take a deficit for a couple of years, and give me a strong economy.

Paul

Oh yeah, and send Saddam packing. That's not asking too much for Christmas, is it?

 

I must admit that my biggest concern about the loss of the Senate is the judicial appointments. Judges stick around for a long time (we're still suffering under some of the Reagan appointees).

The good news, of course, is that neither party can be too strongly ideological since - apparently - the majority of the country is not.

Joshua

 

Just FYI: Roe is not a law. It did, however, name many abortion laws unConstitutional. Some states are all set up with specific clauses that state their old laws will go back into effect if Roe is ever overturned.

 

Rev. Joshua said,

and you would prefer a skirt chasin' womanizer? Oh wait, we already had that in office.

2Timothy

 

Actually, I misspoke in two instances. First, Affirmative Action was actually an Executive Order by Johnson not a court decision. Second, Roe is not a law. Roe was a decision, however, by the Supreme Court that affected the laws of 46 states.

Those were two poor examples by me. My apologies. Judges do have the power to legislate from the bench, unless blocked by Congress. I will try to find some examples that better suit my argument.

Kelly, thank you for pointing that out.

Paul

 

No prob.

I'd be interested to hear what some of the judicial legislations have been. I can't think of any off the top of my head (not that I won't go looking!). Certainly, Court decisions affect existing (and sometimes planned) legislation. But we could go that route and call that legislating from the bench . . . 'course, then I'd wonder what the Court was good for.

 

I disagree completely with the idea that Republicans are less compassionate than Dems, rather if I understand you correctly, that conservatives are less compassionate than liberals.

If I facilitated my children in engaging in self-destructive behaviour, it would not be compassionate. In the same way, liberals aren't being compassionate when they get people addicted to social programs... they are buying votes with tax dollars, creating dependency, and empowering themselves politically.

Other issues are the same:

It is not compassionate to affirm a lifestyle that is unhealthy to spirit, mind, and body.

It is not compassionate to keep abortion legal. In fact, this is one of the most cold-hearted power plays liberals have used.

It is not compassionate to tell someone its never their fault that they aren't successful and instead blame those who are successful. As JFK said, a rising tide lifts all boats. That's real compassion.

It is not compassionate to let criminals out of prison early.

It is not compassionate to tell kids that it is OK to explore sexuality before marriage.

It goes on and on...

I am not altogether satisfied with the Republicans but they do represent a move in the right direction.