News: U.S. Threatened Sanctions if Israel blocked Roadmap

I am praying that the Road Map will be used by God to bring peace to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict so that both peoples, especially the children on both sides, can live in peace, live long, and live prosperously. I hope that all followers of the Prince of Peace will be doing likewise.

I pray that both the Israelis and the Palestinians will love their children more than they hate each other.

 

KenH I am also praying for God's direction in these new peace talks in the Mideast. I thank God that President Bush has the fortitude to take the high road and insist on the establishment of a Palistinian autonomous state. Praise the Lord!

 

Amazing how your Escatology affects your politics. Who was the "Temple of Satan" Jesus was referring too?

 

Psalm 17:8 (ESV)
Keep me as the apple of your eye;
hide me in the shadow of your wings,


All those of whom Jesus is the Savior are referred to as the apple of God's eye.

By the way, I also accept the Bible in its ENTIRETY and within the context as a WHOLE. Just because someone doesn't agree with all of your interpretations does not mean he doesn't believe the Bible in its ENTIRETY.

 

The high road? The President starts wars with one third world country after another in his "war on terror", and then he expects Israel to cave in to terrorist demands. They live with terrorist suicide bombers daily. Surely they have as much of a right, if not more, as the US to declare war on terrorism.

 

They live with terrorist suicide bombers daily. Surely they have as much of a right, if not more, as the US to declare war on terrorism.

Obviously you have no idea of the history of this conflict. All Palistinians are not terrorist. There are some Palistinians who are terrorist ... and over the years some Israelis have been terrorist. The only road to peace is for the roadmap by President Bush to succeed. Two homelands. This is not a religious matter this is a matter of settling long term differences and trying to bring peace to this bloodlied real estate. Bravo President Bush! May God bless you in this endeavor.

 

I just wonder if God blesses President Bush with success will the dispensational premillennialists that voted for him in 2000 still vote for him in 2004?

Unfortunately, there are groups like Hamas on the Palestinian side that don't want peace between the two sides if Israel continues to exist. Do dispensational premillennialists want peace between the two sides if it means the creation of a Palestinian state that includes eastern Jerusalem? As followers of the Prince of Peace they should.

 

Both Hamas and Hezballah (sp??) are bad organizatins with strong political motivation to get rid of the Israelis. Pray that the new prime minister, Bush and even Y. Arafat can reign these people in ... There will be no peace in region as long as they keep up this fight. I am under the impression that these groups are comprised of Arabs for several countries.

I don't it matters one way or the other to the President how dispensatinal premillenialist vote they at best are a fringe group among evangelicals. Tim LaHaye's books made it seem like they are bunches ... but they are not. Thanks be unto God!

They seem intent to move every Palistinian out of the Land ... then the temple can be rebuild and Jesus will get the green light to come rapture the church (disp/premills) out .. and who knows things may get better (tic) ...

 

But then we wouldn't have anyone to argue over eschatology with if the dispensational premillennialists aren't here.

 

I have a little idea, although I'll admit I'm no expert.

I agree completely.

It won't work. First off, the land in question never belonged to the nation of Palestine in the first place, it belonged to Jordan. Secondly, the Palestinians don't even acknowledge Israel's right to exist, so giving them land at gunpoint will not stop the violence, because the Palestinians have said several times that they will only be satisfied with the complete elimination of Israel. Remember, Barak was willing to concede nearly everything that Arafat was asking. It was Arafat who walked out of the peace process and started the latest wave of violence that has been going for several years.

Right. This is a matter of outright hatred. As long as Ishmal still hates Isaac, then land for peace will never work.

If Israel retreats to the pre 1967 borders, they will be unable to defend themselves short of using nuclear weapons. Have you ever heard of Operation Sampson? They nearly used it in 67, and if they ever had to use it now, there would be no Middle East to worry about. I don't think any of us wants to see that.

Let me finish with this. If I read the prophecies correctly, the only one who will be able to bring peace to Israel is the antichrist. If the roadmap is indeed the pathway to peace in Israel, think of the implications of that. As an supporter of Pres Bush, that's a thought that's not very appealing.

Love in Christ,
Larry

 

Personally, I find dispensational premillennialism to be bad theology and an extremely poor attempt at Biblical interpretation ever since it was started about 1830. Just look at how it looks at this situation. If the Road Map works(and I pray to God that He will bring it to fruition), then dispensational premillennialists will be forced to call President Bush the antiChrist to be consistent with their flawed system of interpretation. Then again, dispensational premillennialists might finally realize that Hal Lindsey, Tim LaHaye, and all that bunch have been wrong all along and dump them and their flawed interpretation and switch to one of the Biblical sound eschatologies such as historical premillennialism, postmillennialism, or amillennialism.

 

historical premillennialism, postmillennialism, or amillennialism.

KenH: You forgot that all important pan-millennialism ... you know .. Jesus is gonna come back and everything will pan out!

Operation Sampson Larry what in the world is this .. I can't find any reference to it except from www.herdofsheep.com with reference to Libya and cutting off Quadaffi (sp?) hair and I really thing that it was just a spoof on a CIA/UK plan. Please explain.

BTW, Larry, who are all of those people who have been living in Palistine since the time of Christ? I mean those non-Jews? Who were the 1000s who were put out of their ancestral homes at the Balfour Declaration? This is before Jordan came into existence ... 100rds of years before. Please explain. Thanks.

 

Operation Sampson is a doomsday plan I read about several years ago. I don't have the exact source, but I'll try to find it. Remember how Sampson took out his captors after he started to regrow his hair? He caved in the pillars, taking out his enemies along with himself. That's more or less what Operation Sampson is. Israel will not surrender to her enemies. They will detonate all of their nuclear warheads, taking out themselves along with their enemies.

They are Arabs, the same as the Saudis, Syrians, ect. What does this have to do with Israel? As you said, they were put out hundreds of years ago, long before Israel came into existence. Israel annexed the lands in question from Jordan after the six day war. If the lands are to be returned, it should be Israel's decision alone, but they should never give in to terrorist demands. What would this country think of Bush if he caved in to terrorists?

 

The Balfour dec. was in 1948. There were Palistinians living in Palistine at that time. Don't these people deserve a homeland. They were literally put out of their homes ... homes that had been in their families for hundreds of years. These are the people I am talking about. Pallistinians not Arabs. When did Jordan, SA, Iraq, Iran come into exixtence? These Palistinians have been their since the time of Christ. They have as much right to a part of the Land as the Israelis. I am sorry Larry but I do not believe that the Israelis of today are equal to the Jews of the O. T. times.