Featured No, a Vote for a Third Party (or Abstaining from Voting) Is not the Same as a Vote for Hillary

I was under the impression that Libertarians are for Super-wealthy Trump because he has rejected Reagan's policy of a conservative traditional approach to moral values. After all, Super-wealthy Trump did welcome Bruce Jenner to use the Ladies Washroom in the Trump Tower.

Super-wealthy Trump is using Dr. Carson on his team and Dr. Carson seems grateful to him. Super-wealthy Trump even said that Lyin' Ted would make a good V-P. I think that Super-wealthy Trump is a cheapskate.

 

Yet a whole lot of the same folks were saying the same thing to others about wasting their vote when Romney became the candidate.

Vote for whomever you like. Just use some consistency.

 

The goal of the Republican Party is to unite and to defeat Hillary.


All others need not apply…

 

Yes, and the strategy and tactics for doing that was laid out by the party chairman after Romney lost in 2012. The so-called "GOP autopsy" laid out these actions if they wanted to win the presidency back in 2016:

1. Immigration reform. What's Trump's position on immigration reform? Build a wall, deport people, and ban others from entry into the country. A surefire way of getting votes, right?

2. Inclusion of minorites.

3. Lose the image of rich, white people.

Trump does not check any of those boxes.

 

My point is that these things were things that the GOP were going to address in 2016 and instead they went with a candidate that violates all of them.

 

Yes this makes sense even to an Independent like myself.

Where IMO it would matter is if you see Trump a little bit better choice than Hillary and you stay home. Or in another situation as Tom Cassidy said "the devil I know vs the devil I don't know" which is where I am at. I don't particularly like Trump as a presidential possibility but I like Hillary even less.

HankD

 

No, a vote for a 3rd party candidate or an abstention is not a vote for Hillary but I don't think it's a good idea if you happen to live in a swing state like Florida. I think it's saying more as "no preference", and if that's true, that's the way to go.

It's your vote, when all's said and done. The GOP autopsy:

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/do...es-growth-and-opportunity-project-report/380/

was what the party leaders suggested the party could do to stop losing the presidency. This time they didn't get the candidate they wanted:

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...owth-and-opportunity-project-the-gop-autopsy/

so they didn't "violate" anything, maybe their own voters did. Somebody the establishment wanted like JEB or Lindsey would've lost to Hillary, she has their game plan but not Trump's.

 

They didn't try to stop Trump until it was too late. Romney gave his speech right before Super Tuesday. They should have started to try to derail Trump's campaign in the fall of 2015, months before Iowa's caucus.

The GOP got what they deserved. Prince Reebus is a hypocrite.


Sent from my Motorola Droid Turbo.

 

One Dumb Box is abuse? *laugh*

You need thicker skin.

 

IMO The GOP has itself to blame as the establishment and RINO senators, congressmen and Governors sat on their duffs after all the promises and did nothing but say"yes" and "OK" to those they represented and DID NOTHING.

The sheeple have awakened and ARE FURIOUS!

Trump "capitalized" upon that fury as if it were a dream come true.

In my opinion, the GOP will never be the same and may even disappear from the face of the earth.
Hopefully the Good Ole Boys have learned a big lesson.

Thank you Founding Fathers for the Declaration of Independence, The Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
with the ability to boot out those who are hirelings.

I'm not crazy about Trump but he did throw a hornets nest into the useless "establishment" country club.

I must admit that I do get some pleasure seeing and hearing them whine about the Donald.

HankD

 

Super-rich Trump does not want conservative votes.

 

This sounds a lot like the argument used to urge people to support McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012.

If we keep blindly backing the lesser of two evils (this time it's the lesser of two evil evils) we'll keep getting lousy candidates. If enough people vote for a third party candidate, especially in this election, maybe the GOP will wake up and smell the coffee and stop giving us lousy candidates.

BTW, voting for Trump would be surrendering the country to Trump. We know he would be vindictive, rule with an authoritarian streak, employ executive orders, etc. You think Obama was bad, Trump could be worse.

 

Probably ITL, probably, but I hope not.

HankD

 

Hillary is pure evil, and will finish the job obamo started if she gets in. Trump is the wild card, and might possibly surprise us.

Trump is the one the the people wanted, so the GOP should have changed their rules and blocked him, or put up a better candidate to challenge him

 

Back in 2008 and 2012 I thought this as well. I thought stopping Obama was the most important thing. So I held my nose and voted for McCain and then Romney. But no more. If the country is going to be destroyed I don't want to have voted for the person destroying it, be it Hilary or Trump. Both of them will destroy this country. I live in a solid Red state so it won't matter in the grand scheme of things, but if it sends the GOP a message so much the better. Trump was clearly the Establishments 3rd choice so they can now live with the deal they made. I'm done with them. I think Sen. Sasse has the best idea. Get a Polk like President to come in for 4 years and clean house and then we can all reevaluate in 2020. But since that is not going to happen I'll just sit back and watch the implosion of the GOP and the Dems to a lesser extent.