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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Bro. Curtis, Nov 30, 2005.

  1. Bro. Curtis

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    Break out the shovels, get the coal stove going, warm up some coffee, & get to work. Don't cry about missed welfare checks, don't wait for the mayors to come get you out of your home, just suck it up, and shovel.
     
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    Wrong storm, Joseph. Compare the dates.
     
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    Another thing, it would be wrong for me to poke fun of the Katrina victims, that is not what I'm attempting to do. I've lived around snow & mountains my whole life, and never saw anything that compared with what I had to drive thru on Sunday nite. If we waited, up here, for federal assistance, nothing would ever get done.

    The cowboys up here have to work, or they die. It is just as hard to travel through several feet of snow, as it is to wade thru water.

    And one more question....why do so many welfare recipients flock to the big cities ?
     
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    How many people had to be evacuated from their destroyed homes? Were cops with rifles stationed on bridges to keep people from fleeing to safety? I know blizzards can be deadly, but power outages are fairly common after winter storms.

    It wasn't the hurricane that devastated New Orleans, it was the levies giving way after the storm had passed.

    Is there any talk of putting vulnerable powerlines underground up there?
     
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    Jefferson said, "that government that governs least governs best". We have completely ignored this maxiam and made the government our mother and father, and our care taker.
     
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    Bunyon,

    I agree. Whenever a natural disaster hits, you lose your house, car, everything you have ever had, are stuck on a bridge in the middle of a flood, and have nowhere to go, I think the government should just let you rot there while you starve to death or die from some disease due to the dead bodies floating by in the water. I am quite sure those people should have been able to just shovel out all that water and make their way to dry land, right?

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    Joseph----" right? "

    Wrong!
     
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    They shouldn't have to shovel water, but they certainly have to deal with the consequences for their decisions. If you choose to live in a city on the Gulf Coast, you're going to get hurricanes. Sometimes these hurricanes are strong and deal significant damage. If you are unwilling to deal with any and all consequences for such possibilities, you need to move inland. By staying, you implicitly state that you are willing to accept any and all consequences for choosing to live in such a location: hurricanes, flooding, all of it. And since you chose not to move away, all subsequent damage or loss is quite simply, your own problem. Simple as that.
     
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    It's good for the overall health & wealth of the nation to help individual regions recover from disasters - the faster they are up & running, the faster they are once again contributing to the nation as a whole and the less likely they will be a breeding ground for infectious diseases.

    Not to mention the compassion part.
     
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    It is not good for our country to rebuild a city under sea level.

    Also, it seems the people from that area, who belong to the Baptist Board, did not blame the government, but thanked God in Heaven they survived.
     
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    Bro. Curtis, I totally agree with this. New Orleans should be scrapped. My little village used eminent domain and flattened 10 houses that were getting flooded every spring and built a retention pond there. They didn't build walls and bridges around those houses (that would have come out of local tax money), so why should we pay to build walls and bridges around New Orleans? It's counter-intuitive. Same thing happened when I lived in Houston. Houses along the San Jacinto river constantly get flooded and the Fed Govt finally said 'No more assistance... move'.
     
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    Yet, they were paid for their property. They did not lose everything and then have the government say, "Oh well, you made you bed, now lie in it." It seems that some people are suggesting that its too bad people lost everything in NO, but Oh well that's what they get.
     
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    No, not saying "too bad people lost everything in NO, but Oh well that's what they get"...

    Just saying that we need to put this soon-to-be Atlantis behind us once and for all.

    But, if you still want to stay there, you're free to take your chances once we tell you that we're not extending any more assistance in that area.
     
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    Im just saying that we are to dependant on the government.
     
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    I would have to agree. We went thru Katrina and it was a terrible ordeal. But it isnt the federal government's job to rush to our aid. It very nice that they did. Having ice and MRE's and clean water was such a blessing, and you dont realize it until you need it so badly. It made us so sick to hear folks complaining about the MRE's tasting bad, or they wanted "ice water". Whatever!! I think we should be thankful for every provision we get, b/c they dont owe us anything.
     
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    Only part of New Orleans is below sea-level. However, it wasn't the sea that flooded parts of the city, it was Lake Ponchatrain after the levies broke. The levies were substandard, perhaps criminally so.
     
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