When I was attending Faith Baptist Church, in Riverside, the Pastor, Pastor Johnston made a statement that Women will not be in heaven, the Bible states that we will come back to rule with Christ as Kings, not as Kings and Queens, and a few other verses that made statements like that, which I do not remember, but he made a beliveable point useing scripture to back it up, he also whent on to say that women will be turned into men. My question is, is this true? has anybody else heard of this before? please remember these are not my opinions, but someone elses, and I'm wondering if there is any truth to them? or if anyone has heard of this before.
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No women in heaven...
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My answer is:
DUCK, ROOSTER, DUCK !! HERE COME THE POTS AND PANS !!!
DUCK, ROOSTER, DUCK !! HERE COME THE POTS AND PANS !!!
Daniel David
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The only valid argument one could make regarding no women in heaven is that the Scriptures say it will be silent for half an hour.
Proverbs 21:19 -
It is better to dwell in the wilderness, than with a contentious and an angry woman.
Proverbs 25:24 -
It is better to dwell in the corner of the housetop, than with a brawling woman and in a wide house.
My father in law holds this view. He uses 1 John 3:2 for support:
"Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is."
I don't agree with him on his interpretation, but we don't discuss the issue because he is very defensive.
"Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is."
I don't agree with him on his interpretation, but we don't discuss the issue because he is very defensive.
Dear Rooster
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I think this pastor is an off track a bit! My gosh, we all go too Heaven through our Lord Jesus Christ, no other way.
Please, if at all you see this pastor again, does he have a wife and daughters and or sons? Ask him this. So, where is your family his Family is going? Or would you want them somewhere else than Heaven!
Remember everyone Jesus Loves You!
Blessings, \o/
Kristi
I think this pastor is an off track a bit! My gosh, we all go too Heaven through our Lord Jesus Christ, no other way.
Please, if at all you see this pastor again, does he have a wife and daughters and or sons? Ask him this. So, where is your family his Family is going? Or would you want them somewhere else than Heaven!
Remember everyone Jesus Loves You!
Blessings, \o/
Kristi
Rooster said the pastor contended they would be changed into men.Originally posted by MsGuidedAngel:
Dear Rooster,
I think this pastor is an off track a bit! My gosh, we all go too Heaven through our Lord Jesus Christ, no other way.
Please, if at all you see this pastor again, does he have a wife and daughters and or sons? Ask him this. So, where is your family his Family is going? Or would you want them somewhere else than Heaven!
Remember everyone Jesus Loves You!
Blessings, \o/
Kristi
Marcia
Active Member
Sounds like something right out of the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas:
I wonder what these Christians who think women will turn into men would think if they knew they were agreeing with the Gnostics?
God created man and woman in the Garden, and Revelation (and the Is 11 prophecy) shows us the Garden restored (with children and animals in Is 11). Our bodies will be resurrected (1 Cor 15). How can women be restored and their bodies be resurrected if they are made into men? If God created women, He will restore us.
What the dickens????? Is this a joke??? Whatever!!!
Whew!! Give me a couple days. I'll be back. And I'll be quite pithy.
And by the by, I won't be throwing any pots and pans. I ain't a in-the-kitchen kind of gal!
Peace-
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Scarlett O.
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dianetavegia
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Ezekiel 14:22 Yet behold, there shall be left in it a remnant who will be brought out, both sons and daughters; surely they will come out to you, and you will see their ways and their doings. Then you will be comforted concerning the disaster that I have brought upon Jerusalem, all that I have brought upon it.
Joel 2:28 "And it shall come to pass afterward That I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your old men shall dream dreams, Your young men shall see visions. 29 And also on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days. 30 "And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth: Blood and fire and pillars of smoke. 31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord. 32 And it shall come to pass That whoever calls on the name of the Lord Shall be saved. For in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be deliverance, As the Lord has said, Among the remnant whom the Lord calls.
Acts 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, raised his voice and said to them, "Men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and heed my words. 15 For these are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is only the third hour of the day. 16 But this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel: 17 'And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your young men shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams. 18 And on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days; And they shall prophesy. 19 I will show wonders in heaven above And signs in the earth beneath: Blood and fire and vapor of smoke. 20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord. 21 And it shall come to pass That whoever calls on the name of the Lord Shall be saved.'
2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you* are the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will dwell in them And walk among them. I will be their God, And they shall be My people." 17 Therefore "Come out from among them And be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, And I will receive you."* 18 "I will be a Father to you, And you shall be My sons and daughters, Says the Lord Almighty."
Joel 2:28 "And it shall come to pass afterward That I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your old men shall dream dreams, Your young men shall see visions. 29 And also on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days. 30 "And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth: Blood and fire and pillars of smoke. 31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord. 32 And it shall come to pass That whoever calls on the name of the Lord Shall be saved. For in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be deliverance, As the Lord has said, Among the remnant whom the Lord calls.
Acts 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, raised his voice and said to them, "Men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and heed my words. 15 For these are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is only the third hour of the day. 16 But this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel: 17 'And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your young men shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams. 18 And on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days; And they shall prophesy. 19 I will show wonders in heaven above And signs in the earth beneath: Blood and fire and vapor of smoke. 20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord. 21 And it shall come to pass That whoever calls on the name of the Lord Shall be saved.'
2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you* are the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will dwell in them And walk among them. I will be their God, And they shall be My people." 17 Therefore "Come out from among them And be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, And I will receive you."* 18 "I will be a Father to you, And you shall be My sons and daughters, Says the Lord Almighty."
This is an interesting thread to say the least.
If Isaiah 4 describes the Millennial Kingdom, with Heaven to follow:
Isaiah 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
Then the women will out number the men 7 to 1 !!
On the other hand if what Solomon says is true:
Ecclesiastes 7:27-28 Behold, this have I found, saith the preacher, counting one by one, to find out the account: Which yet my soul seeketh, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found.
The outlook for women looks pretty sad.
If Isaiah 4 describes the Millennial Kingdom, with Heaven to follow:
Isaiah 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
Then the women will out number the men 7 to 1 !!
On the other hand if what Solomon says is true:
Ecclesiastes 7:27-28 Behold, this have I found, saith the preacher, counting one by one, to find out the account: Which yet my soul seeketh, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found.
The outlook for women looks pretty sad.
And many other "revelations" according to Dr. R.L. Hymers, Jr:
http://www.despatch.cth.com.au/Books_V/RuckamnHymers2.htm
HankD