Nothing Is More “Conservative” Than Birthright Citizenship

[Crabtownboy]

Those wanting to change the 14th amendment are taking a liberal stance on this, not a conservative one.

Part of Donald Trump’s disastrous plan for a diplomatic and trade war with Mexico is to eliminate birthright citizenship, the policy that you become a citizen of the United States simply by virtue of being born here, even if your parents are not citizens. This is a proposal that enjoys wide support on the right and has since been picked up by several tag-along candidates in the Republican primaries.

It is also evidence that there are plenty of “conservatives” who want us to stick to the Constitution and time-worn legal traditions—so long as this supports the things they like. But if the Constitution and the thousand-year history of English common law get in the way of their nativist prejudices, then to heck with them.

Make no mistake, eliminating birthright citizenship would require an overthrow of established traditions. It implies a reckless urge to break down ancient legal principles without inquiring why those traditions existed in the first place. In short, it requires precisely the sort of thing conservatives are supposed to be against.

http://thefederalist.com/2015/08/20/nothing-is-more-conservative-than-birthright-citizenship/

 

[777]

Depends on your definition of "conservative". Abortion and SSM are now the law of the land, so being against those is a conservative position - the liberal position in this case is the status quo.

So birthright citizenship should be continued because it has been the way to do it for years? You could make the same arguments about abortion and SSM in 2015 and about slavery in 1849.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Depends on your definition of "conservative". Abortion and SSM are now the law of the land, so being against those is a conservative position - the liberal position in this case is the status quo.

The truth is that everyone is conservative in some areas and liberal in others ... using the true meanings of the words.

So birthright citizenship should be continued because it has been the way to do it for years? You could make the same arguments about abortion and SSM in 2015 and about slavery in 1849.

Well, it is the law of the land as a result of the 14th amendment and the ruling of the SC.

It is illogical to say I am conservative and want the 14th amendment changes and at the same time say I am a conservative and you must not touch the 2nd amendment.

 

[church mouse guy]

The truth is that everyone is conservative in some areas and liberal in others ... using the true meanings of the words.



Well, it is the law of the land as a result of the 14th amendment and the ruling of the SC.

It is illogical to say I am conservative and want the 14th amendment changes and at the same time say I am a conservative and you must not touch the 2nd amendment.

Sorry to break the bad news to you but anyone who ever said that you were conservative in anything lied to you.