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Nuclear False Flag Attack?

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by prophecynut, Aug 12, 2005.

  1. prophecynut

    prophecynut New Member

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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Leland Lehrman
    To: Leland Lehrman
    Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 10:37 AM
    Subject: The Coming Nuclear False Flag - Former Air Force Responds

    This ominous letter was written in response to my article, Israel, Iran and a Nuclear False Flag Attack posted here:
    http://physics911.net/nuclearfalseflag.htm .. It will be obvious why I bring it to your attention.

    WARNING - The above article is lengthy with many links, I strongly advise those who cannot accept a NWO or Political Zionism not to read it.


    Leland

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: Fight the NWO <noNWO@kc.rr.com>
    Date: Aug 5, 2005 9:37 PM
    Subject: The Coming Nuclear False Flag
    To: leland@33o.com

    Leland,
    I'm reading your article on Rense, well done, this pretty well brings all the pieces together that are floating around on the net.
    In response to you with any corroborating evidence, I believe I may have some for you. About 3 weeks ago I was surfing some of the sites I enjoy posting on, when someone posted in all caps that they had just heard from an officer friend in the military that all leaves had been cancelled for the month of September. Obviously aware of the false flags our government is famous for, this person sounded desperate, asking for help in confirming or denying this "rumor" from anyone who had connections in the military.
    I happened to ask a co-worker friend of mine whose son in-law is in the Army (82nd) about checking out the "rumor".
    Well guess what, they've had to move up their leave to this coming week to come home because his unit has to be back by September 7th. where upon all leaves are cancelled! They have seen a steady build up of heavy materials just sitting in storage facilities. He also commented that they were rushed through a training course on new weapons systems they just rolled out. He thought this very odd and a first.
    This sent shivers all through me.
    Not to push any panic buttons I spoke with a dear woman with whom I work whose son is in the Army in an artillery unit. She is a former Captain, her husband is a former Colonel and Vietnam vet and successful attorney here in our area who also happens to be dying from the effects of Agent Orange. Lo and behold their son was told all leaves are cancelled for September and in December they may get leave, but can travel no further than 17 kilometers from their base.
    My niece is married to a young man in the Army stationed on the East Coast he is also 82nd, his leave has also been cancelled. Their first baby is due in December.
    Leland, I'm not prone to fits of paranoia but I have to tell you, I have begun stocking water and canned goods. I am ex Air Force, I was on three ring standby most of my enlistment and was in a constant training mode. I know how this works and it doesn't sound good.
    The draft board offices are in place with staff waiting for the word to go. I read an article from a guy who works in one of those offices, he said Homeland Security came in there early last month and put up bullet proof glass on the windows and iron bars, they installed blast proof glass on the doors, and removed the mail drop box slots on the outside of the building. When he asked what was going on they identified themselves as Homeland Security and said don't worry about the rest and left.
    It's coming no doubt about it. Sorry I can't be more positive, but this is what I have heard with my own ears
    from three independent military member sources in different parts of the country.

    TeaParty2Come
     
  2. poncho

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    Four Star General Fired For Organizing Coup Against Neo-Cons?

    Reporter suggests Brynes discovered plan to turn nuke exercise into staged terror attack

    Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones | August 10 2005

    The head of Fort Monroe's Training and Doctrine Command, four star general Kevin P. Byrnes, was fired Tuesday apparently for sexual misconduct according to official sources.

    Other sources however have offered a different explanation for Byrnes' dismissal which ties in with the Bush administration's unpopular plan to attack Iran and the staged nuclear attack in the US which would provide the pretext to do so.

    According to reporter Greg Szymanski, anonymous military sources said that Brynes was the leader of a faction that was preparing to instigate a coup against the neo-con hawks in an attempt to prevent further global conflict.

    Indications are that, much like popular opinion amongst the general public, half the military oppose the neo-con's agenda and half support it.

    Further revelations were imparted by journalist Leland Lehrman who appeared today on The Alex Jones Show.

    Lehrman's army sources, including a former Captain in intelligence, became outraged when they learned that the official story behind 9/11 was impossible.

    They told Lehrman that the imminent Northcom nuclear terror exercise based in Charleston, S.C, where a nuclear warhead is smuggled off a ship and detonated, was originally intended to 'go live' - as in the drill would be used as the cover for a real false flag staged attack.

    This website has relentlessly discussed similar style drills which took place on the morning of 9/11 and on the morning of 7/7 in London.

    "Speculation exists that he had potentially discovered the fact that it was gonna go live and that he was trying to put a stop to it or also speculation indicates that he may be part of a military coup designed to prevent the ridiculous idea of doing a nuclear war with Iran, " said Lehrman.

    Lehrman said that other sources had told him all army leave had been cancelled from September 7th onwards, opening the possibility for war to be declared within that time frame.

    Northcom officials also admitted to Lehrman that CNN had been using its situation room as a studio.

    Earlier this week, Washington Post reported that the Pentagon has developed its first ever war plans for operations within the continental United States, in which terrorist attacks would be used as the justification for imposing martial law on cities, regions or the entire country.

    American Conservative Magazine recently reported that Dick Cheney had given orders to immediately invade Iran after the next terror attack in the US, even if there was no evidence Iran was involved.

    Government and media mouthpieces have been fearmongering for weeks about how a nuclear attack within the US is imminent.

    Now would be the most opportune time for the Globalists to stage a major attack, as it would head off any potential indictments against the Bush administration for their involvement in illegally outing CIA agent Valerie Plame.

    While rumors circulating about indictments having already taken place against Bush and Cheney should rightly be treated very carefully, the fact that there is an ongoing criminal investigation into the matter is something that's admitted and shouldn't be viewed as speculation.

    SOURCE
     
  3. poncho

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    Press Release
    Exercise to focus on nuclear terror scenario
    Posted Jun 29, 2005 at 1:00:pM MDT



    FORT MONROE, Va. -- Here’s the scenario…A seafaring vessel transporting a 10-kiloton nuclear warhead makes its way into a port off the coast of Charleston, S.C. Terrorists aboard the ship attempt to smuggle the warhead off the ship to detonate it. Is this really a possibility?

    Joint Task Force Civil Support (JTF-CS) here is planning its next exercise on the premise that this crisis is indeed plausible.

    Sudden Response 05 will take place this August on Fort Monroe and will be carried out as an internal command post exercise. The exercise is intended to train the JTF-CS staff to plan and execute Consequence Management operations in support of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IV’s response to a nuclear detonation.

    Some of this year’s objectives for SR05 are to refine nuclear incident Concept of Operations, produce a CM Operation Order, refine command post set-up procedures and maintain situational awareness of multiple CM incidents.

    The Sudden Response exercise has been held at Quantico, Va., in the past, but has been moved to Fort Monroe to maximize command post training time. The senior leadership felt that it was more important to accomplish training instead of losing up to a day and a half in travel time, said Paul Deflueri, J7 Lead Exercise Planner. “This will allow us to still meet our training objectives,” he said.

    Some external participants may work with JTF-CS during the exercise.

    “We’re trying to get representatives from FEMA Region IV as well as representatives from South Carolina Emergency Management Division and active duty soldiers from the (Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear and Explosive) Consequence Management Response Force to play the role of task force units,” Defluri said.

    “Each time we do one of these internal exercises, we try to make it more robust and try to add in fidelity,” Defluri said. “That’s what we’re trying to do for SR05: create a good scenario and be able to replicate the effects as best we can. That way we can give the command a really good CM exercise.”

    U.S. Northern Command
     
  4. KenH

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    From PN's link:

    "On April 18th of 2005, I released a public advisory, reproduced below, regarding the danger of a faked nuclear attack on America, to be staged by rogue British, American and Israeli Mossad operatives, assisted by select criminal, compromised, drug-addicted or mind-controlled "Muslim" patsies and designed to support a global war against Iran and Islam. With Congress in recess and Bush on vacation, the exact conditions preceeding the 9/11 attacks are now being replicated. The attack would also be used to further legitimate the building of the genocidal wall in Jerusalem and possibly even an expansion of, rather than a pullout from, the settlements in Gaza and the West Bank in furtherance of total Israeli dominance in the Middle East. The attack would be aided by Israeli partisans in the United States,"

    I really hate to see such anti-Semitism posted on this Christian board. :(
     
  5. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Unfortunately, this is becoming commonplace on this board. :(

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  6. SeekingTruth

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    Perhaps we should just ignore P_nut.
     
  7. prophecynut

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    Good advice.
    I gave posters a warning not to read the article.

    Here's what God thinks of "Virgin Israel."

    Isa. 1:8
    "The Daughter of Zion is left like a shelter in a vineyard, like a hut in a field of melons, like a city under siege." The "vineyard" and "melons" are the Arab nations that surround her.

    Verse 10
    "Hear the word of the LORD, you rulers of Sodom; listen to the law of our God, you people of Gomorrah!

    Verse 16
    "Your hands are full of blood; wash and make yourselves clean. Take your evil deeds out of my sight! Stop doing wrong, learn to do right!"

    Verse 21
    "See how the faithful city has become a harlot! She once was full of justice; righteousness used to dwell in her - but now murderers!" ("full of justice" during King David's reign)

    Eze. 22:1-16
    3 - O city that brings on herself doom by shedding blood in her midst....

    4 - "you have become guilty because of the blood you have shed....I will make you an object of scorn to the nations and a laughingstock to all the countries.

    5 - "O infamous city, full of turmoil.

    6 - "princes of Israel who are in you uses his power to shed blood (Sharon).....they have oppressed the alien and mistreated the fatherless and the widow.

    9 - In you are slanderous men bent on shedding blood

    12 - In you men accept bribes to shed blood; you take usury and excessive interest and make unjust gain from you neighbors (Palestians) by extortion

    15 - I will disperse you among the nations and scatter you through the countries (Lk. 21:24).

    Hosea 9
    7 - The days of punishment are coming, the days of reckoning are at hand, let Israel know this. Because your sins are so many and your hostility so great....

    9 - They have sunk deep into corruption, as in the days of Gibeah (Jdg 19-21).

    Zep. 3
    1 - Woe to the city of oppressors, rebellious and defiled!

    3 - Her officials are roaring lions, her rulers are evening wolves, who leave nothing for the morning.

    Rev. 11:8
    Their bodies will lie in the street of the great city (Jerusalem), which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt where also their Lord was crucified.

    By your standards, God is also anti-semetic.
     
  8. KenH

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    PN, you can't use the Scriptures to justify anti-Semitism.
     
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    Sure he can. He just did. Kinda reminds me of most extremists we have known historically who justify hate using scripture. You know, Phelps does it all the time.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  10. KenH

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    Sure, people can try, Joseph. But they fail in their effort to those who know the Way, the Truth, and the Life.
     
  11. poncho

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    Okay Ken, now that we've changed the subject of this thread into an attempt to label PN an anti-semite I'd like to ask you and Joseph a question.

    With so much proven criminal activity in governments around the world today (scandals) why should the Israeli government always get a free pass from investigation or scrutiny?

    Second question...is the first question I asked also to be considered anti-semitic?
     
  12. ASLANSPAL

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    Poncho I think there is more to the General Bynes
    story and time will tell but the bush administration has a history of punishing the messenger even when the messenger speaks truth to
    power...some push back from a fellow commander.

    08.12.2005Lt. Gen. Claudia Kennedy

    Something is Amiss
    Generally speaking, one of the most private groups of people in public service are general officers in the US Army. This is not a preference that comes with the stars, rather it is developed over decades of service to America in the Army. As officers become more senior, their privacy becomes more treasured and more fragile. So with this in mind, I would guess that this must be a very painful time for General Kevin Byrnes.

    I do not know anything about the circumstances of the recent announcement about his "personal conduct". A banner on one of the cable TV news stations is my only "source" that something is amiss. But I do know Kevin Byrnes as a fellow officer. We first crossed paths at the Army War College in Carlisle Barracks, Pennsylvania. In the fall of 1990, he had been chosen to remain at the War College for a second year in order to work in an exclusive think tank there. Kevin was smart, fun to have in a group, unassuming, courteous and had the distinction of being the best softball player in the entire student body. He was the most sought after player in that all-important softball competition that launches the sports season at the beginning of each academic year at Carlisle.

    Over the following decade, I talked to Kevin at the conferences and meetings where Army generals gather to chart the future course of the Army. Kevin was always the same -- made contributions to the dicussion that reflected real thought and sensitivity to nuance. He was a leader among his peers.

    In the early summer of 2000 when I experienced intense public reaction to an incident reflecting on another officer's inappropriate conduct toward me, it was then Lieutenant General Kevin Byrnes who spoke at an event honoring my career at the Women in Military Service to America Memorial. At that event, he was pitch perfect for the gathering of civilian and military women and men who represented a dozen advocacy groups as well as a cross-section of active duty officers. His leadership translated beyond the warrior culture to the complex world of Washington DC. Later, the lighter side of Kevin Byrnes showed itself at my home in Alexandria where twenty generals and their wives and civilians appointed to serve with the Army came to celebrate the 81st birthday of Walter Kaye, a Civilian Aide to the Secretary of the Army. Kevin knew all the words to the songs we sang as a pianist played the popular music of the 1960's, 70's and 80's.

    The evening of laughter and singing stands in stark contrast to the mood of this season of General Brynes' life but what I remember beyond any banner on cable TV is Kevin's leadership, his kind heart and his decades of service to America.


    (my comment)
    There does seem to be something amiss especially
    on the scale of justice..to give a medal of
    freedom to those who have proven failure(Tora
    Bora) and then to fire a 4 star general for a
    personal matter 3 months before retirement..like
    I said something is wrong and only General Bynes
    can tell us.
     
  13. LadyEagle

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    So, do we go to Sams and stock up or what?

    The media is saying the attack will happen on the anniversary of 09/11.

    How will we ever live without the BB and our computers being shut down? And no electricity, no air conditioning.
     
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    Now in what possible way could the wall be genocidal and to whom is it genocidal to? What a goofy statement.

    I hope so. This is another goofy statement because Israel is pulling out of Gaza (which is not in her best interests) in accordance with the Road Map Plan of the Globalists (to include Pres. Bush under the threat of withdrawal of US aid if Sharon doesn't) which is just the opposite of the accusation in the posted article. So, it's just a good old anti-semitic accusation that flies in the face of the facts about the Road Map. Unless we are to believe that Israel concocted the Road Map to lead to her own demise as a nation. :rolleyes:

    Now this is a real knee slapper!
    Here's a map to prove how Israel has dominated the Middle East!
     
  15. prophecynut

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    Israeli armed forces have killed more innocent adults and children than the Palestinians have killed Jews, you never hear about it because of the controlled press.

    Probably 85% of alternative news is true while main steam news is 20% true. Just guessing but don't believe everything you read.

    Although they are beginning to pull out of Gaza to appease the globalist they still are expanding in the West bank. Israel's demise is being planned by the globalist, in order to usher in the NWO under the Antichrist.

    Israel is not source of the road map, the globalist in US, England, Russia are forcing it on Israel to establish a Palestian state which is necessary for the false peace prior to God's wrath.
     
  16. prophecynut

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    If it does occur according to internet chatter the damage will be local and not across the US. I certainly would not be doing any air travel. Could the banks or stock market be closed temporarily? Certainly would not be invested in the financial markets now. If a nuclear reactor is hit, it could cause the power grid to fail but I don't think that will happen.
     
  17. KenH

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    If a person cowers in the corner then al Qaeda has won in that person's life.
     
  18. poncho

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    Yep, agree Ken...we tough guys only cower in the corner when a Democrat has a shot at the presidency. [​IMG]
     
  19. Phillip

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    P_Nut, you are funny. Why don't you write a fiction paperback and make some real money instead of wasting your time.

    Can I ask a stupid question? What "power grid" would fail if a nuclear reactor is hit? (Be careful how you answer this, I'm an engineer and I will respond.) [​IMG]
     
  20. prophecynut

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    Don't crack a rib while you're laughing. I hate fiction, the last one I read was Tales of Two Cities many years ago. Prefer non-fiction.

    Power loss in a region could cause cascading power failure through out America. Cascading failure is a common effect seen in high voltage systems, where a single point of failure (SPF) on a fully loaded or slightly overloaded system results in a sudden spike across all nodes of the system. This surge current can induce the already overloaded nodes into failure, setting off more overloads and thereby taking down the entire system in a very short time.
     
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