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Oathkeepers

FollowTheWay

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Yep. Love 'em.

2. We will NOT obey any order to conduct warrantless searches of the American people, their homes, vehicles, papers, or effects – such as warrantless house-to house searches for weapons or persons.

The Patriot Act passed right after 9/11 by the Bush administration gives the government the right to break into any American citizen's home without a warrant if they "suspect them of being a terrorist." Personally, I think this law is unconstitutional and should be removed. What's your attitude towards the Patriot Act?
 

Revmitchell

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2. We will NOT obey any order to conduct warrantless searches of the American people, their homes, vehicles, papers, or effects – such as warrantless house-to house searches for weapons or persons.

The Patriot Act passed right after 9/11 by the Bush administration gives the government the right to break into any American citizen's home without a warrant if they "suspect them of being a terrorist." Personally, I think this law is unconstitutional and should be removed. What's your attitude towards the Patriot Act?

Your buddy Obama loves it.
 

Don

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2. We will NOT obey any order to conduct warrantless searches of the American people, their homes, vehicles, papers, or effects – such as warrantless house-to house searches for weapons or persons.

The Patriot Act passed right after 9/11 by the Bush administration gives the government the right to break into any American citizen's home without a warrant if they "suspect them of being a terrorist." Personally, I think this law is unconstitutional and should be removed. What's your attitude towards the Patriot Act?

Agree. Hate it.
 

OldRegular

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Has anyone ever heard of the oath keepers?

What do you know/think of the group?

I haven't heard of them but they are dead wrong if they consider Snowden an oath keeper. I am not sure he had to take an oath in his job but I consider him guilty of treason. If he had been an honorable person and felt it necessary to reveal NSA material he should have stayed in this country instead of going to China and then Russia, certainly our most formidable foes!
 

JohnDeereFan

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FollowTheWay said:
What's your attitude towards the Patriot Act?

I'm against it. .

I haven't heard of them but they are dead wrong if they consider Snowden an oath keeper. I am not sure he had to take an oath in his job but I consider him guilty of treason. If he had been an honorable person and felt it necessary to reveal NSA material he should have stayed in this country instead of going to China and then Russia, certainly our most formidable foes!

And what would happen to him if he had stayed here?

Have you forgotten about the NDAA already?

if you're running for your life, is it really a good idea to you to run to the people who want to kill you?
 
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The Patriot Act passed right after 9/11 by the Bush administration gives the government the right to break into any American citizen's home without a warrant if they "suspect them of being a terrorist." Personally, I think this law is unconstitutional and should be removed. What's your attitude towards the Patriot Act?
You haven't a clue about what the Patriot Act actually said in its original form. No, it did not give the Bush administration, or any other, the authority to break into American's homes without a warrant. The Patriot Act as originally constituted allowed warrantless searches of foreign national's homes when it could be shown to one of the special court judges that they were involved in plotting or carrying out terrorist activities. The revised version changed language that your Little Marxist Dictator seized upon to use against anyone he chose to use it against. Thus far, there has been little known abuse of it, but the use of Patriot Act courts under this communist dictator in the White House has tripled compared to the Bush years.

By the way, 2008 called. They want their political strategy of blaming George Bush back.
 
Oath Keepers is a non-partisan association of currently serving military, reserves, National Guard, peace officers, fire-fighters, and veterans who swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic … and meant it. We won’t “just follow orders.”

Declaration of Orders We Will NOT Obey

1. We will NOT obey any order to disarm the American people.
2. We will NOT obey any order to conduct warrantless searches of the American people, their homes, vehicles, papers, or effects – such as warrantless house-to house searches for weapons or persons.
3. We will NOT obey any order to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to trial by military tribunal.
4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state, or to enter with force into a state, without the express consent and invitation of that state’s legislature and governor.
5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty and declares the national government to be in violation of the compact by which that state entered the Union.
6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.
7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.
8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control” during any emergency, or under any other pretext. We will consider such use of foreign troops against our people to be an invasion and an act of war.
9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies, under any emergency pretext whatsoever.
10. We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.
I like them, a lot of law enforcement professionals seem to be signing up here in NC. I expect them to be the first to run into problems, particulary with orders 9 and 10. Order 5 will only become an issue if the secession movement gains more ground, but it could be a big stumbling block to some oath keepers.
 
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